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Old 07-28-2017, 04:05 PM   #101
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That's the thing though, we could have 100% proof positive that he's in the pocket of a foreign nation, and his base would shrug it off.
If there was 100% proof positive of collusion, wouldn't that kickstart an impeachment? Whether the base shrugs it off or not seems irrelevant if that was the case... he'd be on trial regardless.
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Old 07-28-2017, 04:08 PM   #102
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If there was 100% proof positive of collusion, wouldn't that kickstart an impeachment? Whether the base shrugs it off or not seems irrelevant if that was the case... he'd be on trial regardless.
I'm afraid I'm far too cynical to give an unbiased answer to that question.
Conservative supported, rich, white, guy?
Yeah, far too cynical.
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Old 07-28-2017, 06:55 PM   #103
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:12 PM   #104
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To be clear, Nixon was not impeached but resigned because he knew his goose was cooked. Trump is kind of a whacko and seems to be a little out of touch with reality. A trial would also give him a fugjillion opportunities to tweet WITCH HUNT, which he couldn't resist.
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:21 PM   #105
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I know, but the articles of impeachment were drawn. He was going to be impeached. He resigned to save as much face as possible. Trump's ego won't allow him to resign.
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:54 PM   #106
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And the D's outnumbered the R's by a pretty large margin in both House and Senste, which isn't the case now. He didn't stand a chance.

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Old 07-28-2017, 08:05 PM   #107
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Most of us weren't even born when Dick Nixon was in office. I guess not much has changed in politics.
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Old 07-28-2017, 08:37 PM   #108
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Umm... a lot has changed. Like, an assload.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:34 PM   #109
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:39 PM   #110
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Umm... a lot has changed. Like, an assload.
I'm talking about the nature of a politician not so much the issues and policies.
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Old 07-28-2017, 09:57 PM   #111
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I'm talking about the nature of a politician not so much the issues and policies.
Yeah, there ain't never been a motherfvcker like Trump before and there probably never will again
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Old 07-28-2017, 11:04 PM   #112
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Yeah, there ain't never been a motherfvcker like Trump before and there probably never will again
Trump definitely is not a cookie cutter politician. It would be interesting to see personality tests completed by the last dozen presidents or so. I think they might have more similar characteristics than different. I mean don't the same occupations generally attract the same types. Just saying we don't see a lot of Albert Einstein or Mother Teresa types in office.
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Old 07-29-2017, 12:28 AM   #113
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Remind me, did he have any legal actions? Serve any time? Pray any fines?

I'm not asking to be facetious, I'm legitimately curious.
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Old 07-29-2017, 12:58 AM   #114
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He was pardoned by Ford.
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Pray any fines? Hmm, I don't recall any divine mandates for that, but who knows?


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Old 07-29-2017, 02:27 AM   #116
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Can someone explain to me what the "torys" are in the UK? I frequently see them referred to online by people angry that they're "messing up" this or that, but I've never bothered to look into who or what they are or are about.
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Old 07-29-2017, 02:51 AM   #117
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Can someone explain to me what the "torys" are in the UK? I frequently see them referred to online by people angry that they're "messing up" this or that, but I've never bothered to look into who or what they are or are about.
The UK's Conservative Party. I'm not super knowledgeable about UK politics, but from what little I know, the previous version were called the Torys, which gave way to the Conservative Party, so everyone just kept calling the new party the same thing to this day. They're the one in power right now. Well, technically in power, given how dire their situation is after they blew it with this last election.
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Old 07-29-2017, 03:33 AM   #118
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Yes, Tories, aka the Conservative party. They sit on the political left/right spectrum roughly where the Democrats sit in the US. Newsflash for everyone calling the Democrats liberals, socialists et al, you're wrong. The Democratic party is a right wing party. Both major US political parties are right wing, just the Republicans are even further to the right than them. Whereas we have the Labour party, which has been traditional just left of centre, but has moved about of the years, especially when Tony Blair was in power. And the Lib Dems who sits somewhere in the middle, but also fluctuate.

You can pretty much guess where the BNP and UKIP parties sit, yep, about where the Republicans do heh.
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Old 07-29-2017, 03:34 AM   #119
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Yeah, there ain't never been a motherfvcker like Trump before and there probably never will again
Not quite.

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Old 07-29-2017, 01:52 PM   #120
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The mainstream media and political analysts are out of touch, that is one thing Trump has nailed and been able to use to his advantage to win people over. This is the lesson no one has wanted to learn from in the last elections. I read enough Trump stories last election to realize this.

Not only do I not think he'll leave office early but if the political climate doesn't change now and there seems to be no signs pointing that it will then he will win again. I'd like to be wrong but sometimes people do get the government that they deserve.
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