So what did we take away from this series?

[Tarris Vaal]

Another thing to add -

Super Shredder as a dedicated plot arc and not just a last minute plot device.



I think its also fair to say that although IDW introduced Alopex, her inclusion in Nick cements her place in future iterations.

It'll be interesting to see if anyone tries to do anything with Shinigami in future versions as she has made remarkably little impact overall. She's just kind of... there...

[myconius]

one thing i've taken from this series is a character's repeated death really cheapens the impact of it all.

sometimes this show feels like a parody of itself.

[Coola Yagami]

I just thought of something else I'd like to see return. Shredder having his squad of enforcers. No more just 1 or two henchmen. That's always been stupid. Why only have 1 or two top guns when you're facing a team of four turtles. You're sending them out to fight uneven odds, and then complaining when they fail.

[miru]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I just thought of something else I'd like to see return. Shredder having his squad of enforcers. No more just 1 or two henchmen. That's always been stupid. Why only have 1 or two top guns when you're facing a team of four turtles. You're sending them out to fight uneven odds, and then complaining when they fail.

Yeah, that's the biggest deal. And also having elements from many other incarnations at once.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I just thought of something else I'd like to see return. Shredder having his squad of enforcers. No more just 1 or two henchmen. That's always been stupid. Why only have 1 or two top guns when you're facing a team of four turtles. You're sending them out to fight uneven odds, and then complaining when they fail.

Shredder's henchmen this series were literally the same cast that worked for him in many previous incarnations:

Karai
Bebop/Rocksteady
Baxter
Rahzar

The only new ones were Fishface and Tiger Claw. We also had Hun for a while even if he looks like an Asian Bruce Lee clone in this show.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by myconius

one thing i've taken from this series is a character's repeated death really cheapens the impact of it all.

Try reading DC comics sometime, dude...

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Try reading DC comics sometime, dude...

i've read plenty of DC.

lots of Marvel too.

they're both full of bunky!

[ssjup81]

Haven’t they killed out Superman a few times in the DC comics? I remember they did that time back in the mid-90s and people got all crazy over it, iirc.

Originally Posted by myconius

one thing i've taken from this series is a character's repeated death really cheapens the impact of it all.

sometimes this show feels like a parody of itself.

I still don’t see how it cheapens the death. It only happened once…the end of season 3 and directly after it, they were setting it up so that they could prevent his death, which they did thanks to Leo’s reacting right before Shredder could stab him. There haven’t been any other times setting him up as being dead or whatever.

Season 2’s ending didn’t count because we saw him get saved by Karai. April and the others didn’t know that, but we, the audience, did. For that, it was more like, “What’s going on with Splinter? How is he doing? I hope he’s okay.” Mikey pretty much echoed as much when he calmed down Raph, reassuring him that Splinter would be okay because of his being a ninja master and in the early eps, Mikey was still optimistic over Splinter, whereas Raph wasn’t.

The season 4 Rat King ep didn’t count since it was adapting a portion of Mirage and as far as I remember, Splinter survived, although he did have to resort to cannibalizing rats which the show didn’t let him do. I’m glad they didn’t keep that in. That would’ve freaked me out, but they probably did that because they used the human > rat origin as opposed to rat > mutated rat origin. Rats cannibalize other rats. It’s creepy. ><

So yeah, don’t see how it cheapens the death when it’s only happened once as far as Splinter goes.

[myconius]

it's cheap because they've been taunting Splinter's death for pretty much the entire series.

as if it's been pointing to 'Spinter's gonna die'

they did the same thing at the end of Season one teasing that Leo was gonna die.

it's just cheap audience manipulation.

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by myconius

it's cheap because they've been taunting Splinter's death for pretty much the entire series.

as if it's been pointing to 'Spinter's gonna die'

they did the same thing at the end of Season one teasing that Leo was gonna die.

it's just cheap audience manipulation.

Whats worse is that it could've been avoided if Splinter checked to see if Shredder was still alive.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by PApagreg

Whats worse is that it could've been avoided if Splinter checked to see if Shredder was still alive.

absolutely!!! i mean how careless can you get???

talk about lazy writing!

[PApagreg]

Originally Posted by myconius

absolutely!!! i mean how careless can you get???

talk about lazy writing!

Honestly so far the one thing I'm taking away from this series is that Spinter never checks for a body and never checks his damn 6

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by myconius

it's cheap because they've been taunting Splinter's death for pretty much the entire series.

as if it's been pointing to 'Spinter's gonna die'

they did the same thing at the end of Season one teasing that Leo was gonna die.

it's just cheap audience manipulation.

We all know Leo wasn't gonna die. Even if you never read the comics, the 90s movie and 2K3 series say hi.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Haven’t they killed out Superman a few times in the DC comics? I remember they did that time back in the mid-90s and people got all crazy over it, iirc.

To be fair, back then that's the first time a major superhero died, it actually hit the papers and morning news, and it was advertised as him being dead FOR GOOD. This was before superheroes were dying left and right and coming back to life the next week. Jason Todd and Bucky Barnes were still dead at this point and we thought they'd never come back, and this was before the Gwen Stacy clones and fake Aunt May deaths and other such nonsense.

I remember back then non-comic book readers found out that there were things out there like Doomsday that were powerful enough to makeSuperman bleed.