Star Wars - Doubling down on agenda - Page 4

*Xav* · 03-06-2019, 11:29 PM

Anyone else notice something off about the scenes recreated in this video?

*Andrew NDB* · 07-10-2019, 12:45 PM

Brie Larson really, really wants to be in a Star Wars movie.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-f...o9rZ25sW-Q_BwI

https://movieweb.com/brie-larson-jed...ars-the-force/

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-10-2019, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Brie Larson really, really wants to be in a Star Wars movie.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-f...o9rZ25sW-Q_BwI

https://movieweb.com/brie-larson-jed...ars-the-force/

Hell, cast her as Rey's mom.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-10-2019, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Hell, cast her as Rey's mom.

If there wasn't only two years age difference between them, that'd be very fitting, wouldn't it?

I say cast her in the doomed pit that is Rian Johnson's trilogy.

*neatoman* · 07-10-2019, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Brie Larson really, really wants to be in a Star Wars movie.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-f...o9rZ25sW-Q_BwI

https://movieweb.com/brie-larson-jed...ars-the-force/

OK, she can voice a slow moving grass alien in a waiting room.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 07-10-2019, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

If there wasn't only two years age difference between them, that'd be very fitting, wouldn't it?

I say cast her in the doomed pit that is Rian Johnson's trilogy.

Brie looks more than just 2 years older than Daisy Ridley.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-10-2019, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Brie looks more than just 2 years older than Daisy Ridley.

All that scowling and anger is prematurely aging her. Daisy Ridley largely seems pretty chill.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-07-2019, 05:52 PM

Star Wars is struggling to win over the new generation of kids:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...vel-generation

Can't imagine why.

*Vegita-San* · 08-07-2019, 06:01 PM

Even kids can recognize crap. Disney will learn the hard way with Marvel phase 4.

*The Deadman* · 08-07-2019, 06:26 PM

Kids don't understand WHY they're crap, though. And something being crap is subjective.

~~Sumac~~ · 08-07-2019, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Star Wars is struggling to win over the new generation of kids:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...vel-generation

Can't imagine why.

Step 1: take a beloved property;
Step 2: give the property at the hands of the committee;
Step 3: let the committee to butcher everything good about property into safe generic project;
Step 4: project fails;
Step 5: blame critics, white men, Russian trolls, whoever, for its failure;
Step 6: repeat all steps, but this time pre-emptively say that everyone who don't like this movie are "nazis", racists, sexists and so on;
(Step 7: be surprised, when a lot of people despise your projects);

*CyberCubed* · 08-07-2019, 08:03 PM

For the most part Star Wars only intended to tell one story and it ended. The original trilogy was that, and then the prequels showed the rise of Darth Vader. To most people the entire EU, comics, novels...don't exist. Star Wars was "over" back in 2005.

This isn't like DC or Marvel superheroes that go on forever because they can tell endless stories and reboots over and over again with different variations. Star Wars isn't really something that can go on and on, it's the same reason half the old EU felt like fanfiction.

Disney got a new trilogy out of it and some spinoffs, but it should end here. We know it won't because of yet another movie trilogy happening in the 2020's, but it is what it is.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-07-2019, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

For the most part Star Wars only intended to tell one story and it ended. The original trilogy was that, and then the prequels showed the rise of Darth Vader. To most people the entire EU, comics, novels...don't exist. Star Wars was "over" back in 2005.

This isn't like DC or Marvel superheroes that go on forever because they can tell endless stories and reboots over and over again with different variations. Star Wars isn't really something that can go on and on, it's the same reason half the old EU felt like fanfiction.

Disney got a new trilogy out of it and some spinoffs, but it should end here. We know it won't because of yet another movie trilogy happening in the 2020's, but it is what it is.

Just curious, Cubed, but why the disdain for books and comics that continue franchises past the on-screen canon? You're dismissive of both the Star Trek and Star Wars extended universes.

Granted, there are quite a few duds in the EUs, but there are a lot of gems, too.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-07-2019, 08:56 PM

He's not wrong, though. To "most" people, the SW EU stuff doesn't exist and never did.

*CyberCubed* · 08-08-2019, 07:21 AM

Most people just don’t know or read them. Ask an average person who Thrawn, Mara Jade, or Han and Leia’s Kids from the comics are and most people will have never heard of them.

In terms of Star Trek do you think most people outside of hardcore fan consider the novels/comics that continued the voyages of the original series, Next Generation, DS9, part of the series or canon? Most people never read them. Whatever happens outside of shows or movies “doesn’t exist” for most people.

The TMNT franchise has a similar problem. IDW TMNT started in 2011 and is now almost a decade old and one of the longest lasting TMNT universes...yet your average TMNT fan has never heard about “Old Hob” and has no idea who that is despite debuting back in 2011.

Sometimes I think people forget how obscure comics really are, or how novels that continue after shows get canceled are rarely talked about or forgotten.

*Vegita-San* · 08-12-2019, 10:48 AM

hmm...makes sense

*Coola Yagami* · 08-12-2019, 01:59 PM

Hate to say but I agree with Cubed. The only Star Wars that counts are the movies. I don't take any of the spin off material as canon, cause with so many books, comics and cartoons there are bound to be contradictions up the wazoo. Then the next movie (which isn't paying attention to all that crap) will come out with new lore or whatever that contradicts the cartoon of whatever.

TMNT is different. IDW is it's own canon and kids can understand the Bay Turtles are not the 2012 Turtles or the Rise Turtles.

Star Wars on the other hand, or at least their fanbase us trying too hard to say ALL their stuff is canon.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-20-2019, 01:56 PM

Kathleen Kennedy:

"Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be. We go through a really normal development process that everybody else does. You start by talking to filmmakers who you think exhibit the sensibilities that you’re looking for."

Kennedy went on to add that the development process starts with carefully considering a select number of filmmakers who can deliver on certain sensibilities that Lucasfilm is looking for. From there, it's about navigating the reality that what you may have planned to do might not "work out exactly the way you want."

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-f...aRUiMaZQ644SpM

*Vegita-San* · 11-20-2019, 02:18 PM

anyone who still defends her at this point is the worlds most stupid stock holder that deserves to loose everything they have.

smh.

filoni we trust.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 11-20-2019, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Kathleen Kennedy:

"Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be. We go through a really normal development process that everybody else does. You start by talking to filmmakers who you think exhibit the sensibilities that you’re looking for."

Kennedy went on to add that the development process starts with carefully considering a select number of filmmakers who can deliver on certain sensibilities that Lucasfilm is looking for. From there, it's about navigating the reality that what you may have planned to do might not "work out exactly the way you want."

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-f...aRUiMaZQ644SpM

Yeah, I saw that. Nothing surprises me anymore. Except, I guess, that The Mandalorian seems to be pretty good so far.

07-10-2019, 12:45 PM	#62
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,251	Brie Larson really, really wants to be in a Star Wars movie. https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-f...o9rZ25sW-Q_BwI https://movieweb.com/brie-larson-jed...ars-the-force/ __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

08-07-2019, 05:52 PM	#68
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,251	Star Wars is struggling to win over the new generation of kids: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...vel-generation Can't imagine why. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

08-07-2019, 06:01 PM	#69
Vegita-San Emperor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,915	Even kids can recognize crap. Disney will learn the hard way with Marvel phase 4. __________________ 'Wrong, April. We've Been upgraded to Women hating TROLLS' ?The force is not female, the force is not male, the force is for everyone?

08-07-2019, 06:26 PM	#70
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08-07-2019, 08:56 PM	#74
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,251	He's not wrong, though. To "most" people, the SW EU stuff doesn't exist and never did. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-06-2019, 11:29 PM	#61
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2,976	Anyone else notice something off about the scenes recreated in this video?

08-07-2019, 08:03 PM	#72
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	For the most part Star Wars only intended to tell one story and it ended. The original trilogy was that, and then the prequels showed the rise of Darth Vader. To most people the entire EU, comics, novels...don't exist. Star Wars was "over" back in 2005. This isn't like DC or Marvel superheroes that go on forever because they can tell endless stories and reboots over and over again with different variations. Star Wars isn't really something that can go on and on, it's the same reason half the old EU felt like fanfiction. Disney got a new trilogy out of it and some spinoffs, but it should end here. We know it won't because of yet another movie trilogy happening in the 2020's, but it is what it is.

08-08-2019, 07:21 AM	#75
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	Most people just don’t know or read them. Ask an average person who Thrawn, Mara Jade, or Han and Leia’s Kids from the comics are and most people will have never heard of them. In terms of Star Trek do you think most people outside of hardcore fan consider the novels/comics that continued the voyages of the original series, Next Generation, DS9, part of the series or canon? Most people never read them. Whatever happens outside of shows or movies “doesn’t exist” for most people. The TMNT franchise has a similar problem. IDW TMNT started in 2011 and is now almost a decade old and one of the longest lasting TMNT universes...yet your average TMNT fan has never heard about “Old Hob” and has no idea who that is despite debuting back in 2011. Sometimes I think people forget how obscure comics really are, or how novels that continue after shows get canceled are rarely talked about or forgotten.

08-12-2019, 10:48 AM	#76
Vegita-San Emperor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,915	hmm...makes sense __________________ 'Wrong, April. We've Been upgraded to Women hating TROLLS' ?The force is not female, the force is not male, the force is for everyone?

08-12-2019, 01:59 PM	#77
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 14,004	Hate to say but I agree with Cubed. The only Star Wars that counts are the movies. I don't take any of the spin off material as canon, cause with so many books, comics and cartoons there are bound to be contradictions up the wazoo. Then the next movie (which isn't paying attention to all that crap) will come out with new lore or whatever that contradicts the cartoon of whatever. TMNT is different. IDW is it's own canon and kids can understand the Bay Turtles are not the 2012 Turtles or the Rise Turtles. Star Wars on the other hand, or at least their fanbase us trying too hard to say ALL their stuff is canon. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

11-20-2019, 01:56 PM	#78
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,251	Kathleen Kennedy: "Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be. We go through a really normal development process that everybody else does. You start by talking to filmmakers who you think exhibit the sensibilities that you’re looking for." Kennedy went on to add that the development process starts with carefully considering a select number of filmmakers who can deliver on certain sensibilities that Lucasfilm is looking for. From there, it's about navigating the reality that what you may have planned to do might not "work out exactly the way you want." https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-f...aRUiMaZQ644SpM __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

11-20-2019, 02:18 PM	#79
Vegita-San Emperor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,915	anyone who still defends her at this point is the worlds most stupid stock holder that deserves to loose everything they have. smh. filoni we trust. __________________ 'Wrong, April. We've Been upgraded to Women hating TROLLS' ?The force is not female, the force is not male, the force is for everyone?