Travis Knight to direct the Transformers Bumblebee Spinoff Movie - Page 3

*RaphaelinSTL* · 12-08-2018, 08:22 AM

Personally, I'm more interested in this than Aquabro and I hope that this ends up doing pretty good business over DC ... but I guess we'll see how it plays out.

*Autbot_Benz* · 12-08-2018, 10:26 PM

Everyone who has gone to these early screenings are saying this is the best live action transformers movie to date.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-09-2018, 06:03 AM

Here's one such review

*TigerClaw* · 12-09-2018, 05:27 PM

Live stream from the World Premiere.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-20-2018, 10:52 AM

Just got back from Bumblebee. Very entertained, it's a breezy heartfelt story, the G1 nods don't dominate the entire film, and those first few minutes on Cybetron are great. Cena's acting is kind of atrocious but in a fun way, the playlist weirded me out a bit because I've used some of the same songs in music videos lately. Maybe God has my playlist or something.

Spoiler:

*RaphaelinSTL* · 12-24-2018, 07:50 AM

Didn't have any free time to see it this weekend, but hoping to catch it next weekend to give it a little more legs box office wise. Glad to see reports that are saying it may continue to do well over the next few weeks.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-24-2018, 09:27 AM

Do we get anything about why the main character wouldn't still be the main character in, say, any of the main Transformers movies?

*Leo656* · 12-24-2018, 09:35 AM

Based on what I was reading about it, the ending generally reboots the whole thing. Everything strongly contradicts what was explained in the original movies, without much explanation that could link them.

Spoiler:

I'm guessing it's just a brand new continuity going forward. Which is a good idea, and one that could've gotten me excited.

However, this new Transformers/G.I. Joe/M.A.S.K. (really?

) shared universe is supposedly going to revolve around John Cena's character, so... yeah, I'm out.

I don't watch that joker for free, ain't no way I'm paying to watch him.

Too bad. Could'a had me. Ah well.

*ranger_scout* · 12-24-2018, 09:37 AM

Honestly, why couldn't Paramount have gotten the team for Bumblebee to do the Transformers films from the start? This was actually a very good film. The script was well-written; I liked the human characters; and the backstory of Bumblebee was interesting. I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if I never saw the second through fifth movies again, but I would gladly go back and see this in theaters if I find the time.

*Leo656* · 12-24-2018, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ranger_scout

Honestly, why couldn't Paramount have gotten the team for Bumblebee to do the Transformers films from the start?

Well, I can't speak to that directly, but I do have quite a few entertainment magazines from back then in which everyone states the general consensus that Bay was, supposedly, the only one who could possibly do the concept any justice, given his special effects-heavy films and action movie experience. Any concerns about plot or characters was dismissed with the notion that "It's just a silly toy movie anyway, all the Big Action will surely compensate for any shortcomings in the script."

If only we knew.

But yeah, short answer being "Back then everybody really wanted Bay to do it, except the hardcore toy fans, who nobody listens to because they're nerds."

*Andrew NDB* · 12-24-2018, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm guessing it's just a brand new continuity going forward. Which is a good idea, and one that could've gotten me excited.

We already know that's not the case.

Quote:

However, this new Transformers/G.I. Joe/M.A.S.K. (really?

) shared universe is supposedly going to revolve around John Cena's character

Is this for real? So what, they're going to keep all subsequent Transformers/GI Joe/MASK movies in the 80s? Because if they return to "now" then Cena would need to play 40 years older.

*Leo656* · 12-24-2018, 09:56 AM

I don't think anyone working on these is gonna pay the same kind of attention as you or I.

They might try and keep things "loosely" connected to the originals but I doubt they'll ever be directly referenced again.

As far as Cena's character's age, nobody cared how badly MacAvoy's Professor X screwed up that series's timeline, by appearing the exact same age decades apart, so I doubt anyone will care here, either. Give Cena a pair of glasses in the "present day" films, and he's magically decades older! Easy.

I mean, I don't KNOW they're gonna revolve everything around him, but that was the rumor as of a few days ago, that he's gonna be the main cog in this big government agency that runs through the TF/G.I. Joe/M.A.S.K. universe, like Nick Fury I guess. There's strong evidence to that, such as, him saying he's definitely going to be too busy with movies to ever wrestle full-time again, the fact that this movie's getting good buzz, and that he's one of the things people are praising the most.

He's insanely popular, so putting aside the fact that I can't sand the guy, if I were running this ship I'd put him front-and-center, too.

*sdp* · 12-24-2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

However, this new Transformers/G.I. Joe/M.A.S.K. (really?

) shared universe is supposedly going to revolve around John Cena's character, so...

It won't revolve around Cena, only future Bumblebee/transformers movies if this spin-off does well.

I doubt M.A.S.K. will ever come out unless their cinematic universe actually gets set up. GI Joe will likely have another chance to shine but most importantly the biggest piece after Transformers they'll use to build their shared universe will be Power Rangers.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

We already know that's not the case.

Is this for real? So what, they're going to keep all subsequent Transformers/GI Joe/MASK movies in the 80s? Because if they return to "now" then Cena would need to play 40 years older.

They're playing it loose in continuity so it can be a reboot but at the same time a prequel depending on how the film does. If it bombs then some of those changes are retcons if it does well then it's a reboot. Similar to Hulk/The Incredible Hulk, it had contradictions but it worked as a loose sequel but once the MCU was established of course it was never in continuity. They're likely deciding themselves right now on how they want to approach it

*TigerClaw* · 12-24-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp

It won't revolve around Cena, only future Bumblebee/transformers movies if this spin-off does well.

I doubt M.A.S.K. will ever come out unless their cinematic universe actually gets set up. GI Joe will likely have another chance to shine but most importantly the biggest piece after Transformers they'll use to build their shared universe will be Power Rangers.

They're playing it loose in continuity so it can be a reboot but at the same time a prequel depending on how the film does. If it bombs then some of those changes are retcons if it does well then it's a reboot. Similar to Hulk/The Incredible Hulk, it had contradictions but it worked as a loose sequel but once the MCU was established of course it was never in continuity. They're likely deciding themselves right now on how they want to approach it

Well they are planning on rebooting Transformers after Bumblebee. And it managed to make the Top 3 at the box office placing 3rd. I don't know how the studio would see these results. But whatever the case. The whole Transformers franchise is up for a reboot.

Bumblebee could have placed 1st if it wasn't going up against Mary Poppins Returns and Aquaman. This weeks releases was crowded.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-24-2018, 11:14 AM

Bumblebee so far has taken $21 million, making it one of the weaker openings in the history of the TF movie franchise.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#6c385ef32dbe

*TigerClaw* · 12-24-2018, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Bumblebee so far has taken $21 million, making it one of the weaker openings in the history of the TF movie franchise.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#6c385ef32dbe

That movie could've done better. If it didn't open at the same time with Aquaman and Mary Poppins. Its a risky move.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-24-2018, 11:16 AM

Yeah, yikes. It may have had half the budget of the last Transformers movie... but it also opened at literally half of the box office.

*sdp* · 12-24-2018, 11:17 AM

If they really wanted a reboot the Gen1 aesthetics were not going to be enough, they needed to give people time to breath, they could've still released movies and make money off the franchise but doing something entirely different with Beast Wars, it's what they did in the 90s to revitalize the franchise and it worked.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-24-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp

If they really wanted a reboot

But they didn't. And given it's simultaneous pre-production next to The Last Knight, they didn't even know The Last Knight was going to be a flop yet.

If Bumblee bombs, following The Last Knight's bombing, though... that might be all she wrote for Transformers movies for a good while.

~~AquaParade~~ · 12-26-2018, 02:57 PM

I'm glad most people enjoyed this so much. I found it disappointing, overall.
It definitely feels less "slimy" than the previous Transformers, if that makes sense. It actually feels like a genuine, humanized film, but I still found the script to be pretty weak.

Hailee Steinfeld sure is charming though. I thought she did a great job with the script she was given. Generally, all the characters are likeable.

So I'd definitely say this film has its merits, but it didn't *speak* to me. I found myself wishing I had seen Spider-Verse again, about 20 minutes in, and that feeling never went away.

12-08-2018, 08:22 AM	#41
RaphaelinSTL Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,714	Personally, I'm more interested in this than Aquabro and I hope that this ends up doing pretty good business over DC ... but I guess we'll see how it plays out. __________________

12-08-2018, 10:26 PM	#42
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,279	Everyone who has gone to these early screenings are saying this is the best live action transformers movie to date. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

12-09-2018, 06:03 AM	#43
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 20,887	Here's one such review __________________ TMNT Fan Script Discussion Thread "It Should Have Ended Here"...add your ideal ending to the Series Fauxnale wiki Add Your Story to the TMNT Fanfiction Wiki Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

12-09-2018, 05:27 PM	#44
TigerClaw Mutant Tiger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hialeah, Florida, USA Posts: 13,816	Live stream from the World Premiere. __________________

12-20-2018, 10:52 AM	#45
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 20,887	Just got back from Bumblebee. Very entertained, it's a breezy heartfelt story, the G1 nods don't dominate the entire film, and those first few minutes on Cybetron are great. Cena's acting is kind of atrocious but in a fun way, the playlist weirded me out a bit because I've used some of the same songs in music videos lately. Maybe God has my playlist or something. Spoiler: About the only negatives I would give it is the plot progression completely depends on Bumblebee being dumb enough to explore/wreck the house, as the jolt he gets from the appliances sparks off an energon jolt that lures Cena and the triple changers to the neighbourhood. The other is when the girl's step-dad creates a distraction with his own car. It's very much a kids flick so the resulting traffic skirmish ends with noone being killed and all the cars narrowly avoid hitting each other, this is followed by the only real bit of bathroom humour as the little brother throws up Thee's not that much of a body count in it, the two Decepticons, Cliffjumper, a redneck, and the military Professor. The humans are liquidated by the Decepticon weapons . Cliffjumper is skewered in half. __________________ TMNT Fan Script Discussion Thread "It Should Have Ended Here"...add your ideal ending to the Series Fauxnale wiki Add Your Story to the TMNT Fanfiction Wiki Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

12-24-2018, 07:50 AM	#46
RaphaelinSTL Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,714	Didn't have any free time to see it this weekend, but hoping to catch it next weekend to give it a little more legs box office wise. Glad to see reports that are saying it may continue to do well over the next few weeks. __________________

12-24-2018, 09:27 AM	#47
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,256	Do we get anything about why the main character wouldn't still be the main character in, say, any of the main Transformers movies? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

12-24-2018, 09:35 AM	#48
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	Based on what I was reading about it, the ending generally reboots the whole thing. Everything strongly contradicts what was explained in the original movies, without much explanation that could link them. Spoiler: Apparently all the Cybertron stuff is completely different, and no mention whatsoever of the All Spark. And everyone has G1-inspired designs instead of the Bay ones. And the story about When and Why the Autobots came to Earth is completely different than what the earlier movies explained. I'm guessing it's just a brand new continuity going forward. Which is a good idea, and one that could've gotten me excited. However, this new Transformers/G.I. Joe/M.A.S.K. (really? ) shared universe is supposedly going to revolve around John Cena's character, so... yeah, I'm out. I don't watch that joker for free, ain't no way I'm paying to watch him. Too bad. Could'a had me. Ah well. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

12-24-2018, 09:37 AM	#49
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,054	Honestly, why couldn't Paramount have gotten the team for *Bumblebee* to do the *Transformers* films from the start? This was actually a very good film. The script was well-written; I liked the human characters; and the backstory of Bumblebee was interesting. I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if I never saw the second through fifth movies again, but I would gladly go back and see this in theaters if I find the time.

12-24-2018, 09:56 AM	#52
Leo656 The Franchise Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,696	I don't think anyone working on these is gonna pay the same kind of attention as you or I. They might try and keep things "loosely" connected to the originals but I doubt they'll ever be directly referenced again. As far as Cena's character's age, nobody cared how badly MacAvoy's Professor X screwed up that series's timeline, by appearing the exact same age decades apart, so I doubt anyone will care here, either. Give Cena a pair of glasses in the "present day" films, and he's magically decades older! Easy. I mean, I don't KNOW they're gonna revolve everything around him, but that was the rumor as of a few days ago, that he's gonna be the main cog in this big government agency that runs through the TF/G.I. Joe/M.A.S.K. universe, like Nick Fury I guess. There's strong evidence to that, such as, him saying he's definitely going to be too busy with movies to ever wrestle full-time again, the fact that this movie's getting good buzz, and that he's one of the things people are praising the most. He's insanely popular, so putting aside the fact that I can't sand the guy, if I were running this ship I'd put him front-and-center, too. __________________ "I left some words quite far from here to be a short reminder... I laid them out in stone, in case they need to last forever..." "But hey... I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know." nWo Tech: The Official Thread Poison of the Technodrome Forums https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr...awnHgDz1ceDcfA https://theroxxshow.blogspot.com/

12-24-2018, 11:14 AM	#55
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 20,887	Bumblebee so far has taken $21 million, making it one of the weaker openings in the history of the TF movie franchise. https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#6c385ef32dbe __________________ TMNT Fan Script Discussion Thread "It Should Have Ended Here"...add your ideal ending to the Series Fauxnale wiki Add Your Story to the TMNT Fanfiction Wiki Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

12-24-2018, 11:16 AM	#57
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,256	Yeah, yikes. It may have had half the budget of the last Transformers movie... but it also opened at literally half of the box office. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

12-24-2018, 11:17 AM	#58
sdp Megan Fox = April Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 9,999	If they really wanted a reboot the Gen1 aesthetics were not going to be enough, they needed to give people time to breath, they could've still released movies and make money off the franchise but doing something entirely different with Beast Wars, it's what they did in the 90s to revitalize the franchise and it worked. __________________ *Bye* *TMNT !!! I'm unaliving tonight* Click to join The Drome Discord server

12-26-2018, 02:57 PM	#60
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I'm glad most people enjoyed this so much. I found it disappointing, overall. It definitely feels less "slimy" than the previous Transformers, if that makes sense. It actually feels like a genuine, humanized film, but I still found the script to be pretty weak. Hailee Steinfeld sure is charming though. I thought she did a great job with the script she was given. Generally, all the characters are likeable. So I'd definitely say this film has its merits, but it didn't speak to me. I found myself wishing I had seen Spider-Verse again, about 20 minutes in, and that feeling never went away.