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Old 08-08-2017, 08:35 AM   #61
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Ten episodes left and he's most likely not going to play a part in any of them, if that's true then the joke about him never coming back will be fufilled.
Still, we've had several threads discussing Timothy/Mutagen Man over the past year or so that die out. What makes this thread so special that it had to get a revival? It's dumb.
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I honestly feel that had the season 1 team remained and RCS was reoccurring, Mutagen Man would've played an active role. If I were to take a guess, I almost feel he'd be a sacrifice in creating retromutagen with/without April's DNA. Either that or he would've possibly been a rogue mutant appearing from time to time. Had that been the case, maybe he could've joined the Mutanimals if Rockwell could get through him with his psychic powers.

It's speculation on my part, but something tells me one of those two options may have been the case had things worked out. Alas, it didn't; Mutagen Man Unleashed I find underrated and was curious on the direction it'd go. Hopefully, the final Nick arc in season 5 shows a small glimpse of him defrosting or being free and either cured/killed.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:40 AM   #62
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Ten episodes left and he's most likely not going to play a part in any of them, if that's true then the joke about him never coming back will be fufilled.
That's not true at all. We know the last arc takes place 50 years in the future. It's very likely he might be in that arc as a human already (with his de-mutating happening off-screen), and so forth.

I expect that last arc to have a lot of endgame moments for the cast. Wouldn't be surprised if Tiger Claw gets a non-speaking cameo and we see what became of Fishface and so forth.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:43 AM   #63
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That's not true at all. We know the last arc takes place 50 years in the future. It's very likely he might be in that arc as a human already (with his de-mutating happening off-screen), and so forth.

I expect that last arc to have a lot of endgame moments for the cast. Wouldn't be surprised if Tiger Claw gets a non-speaking cameo and we see what became of Fishface and so forth.
I don't think he will ever get demuted. As the final will be set in a apocalyptic future, he would most likely stay as Mutagen Man.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:44 AM   #64
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I don't think he will ever get demuted. As the final will be set in a apocalyptic future, he would most likely stay as Mutagen Man.
He's been said to thaw out by Donnie in the future, seeing him demutated at the end of the show would give the endgame status the show is going for.
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:16 PM   #65
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He's been said to thaw out by Donnie in the future, seeing him demutated at the end of the show would give the endgame status the show is going for.
What if Timothy chooses to stay mutant and be part of the Future Mutanimals? Just saying
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:25 PM   #66
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What if Timothy chooses to stay mutant and be part of the Future Mutanimals? Just saying
Well he's kind of a mindless monster and didn't want to be a mutant.

At least the Rockwell Monkey doesn't mind being a mutant.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:31 PM   #67
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Timothy's mutation really got to me. All he wanted to do was be like the turtles., and when it actually happened, not only did he not turn into a cool super hero, he realized being a mutant isn't all its cracked up to be. Later, he lost nearly all his humanity and was ultimately frozen by Donney.
It just goes to show, what goes around, comes around. Timothy's desires ended up being his ultimate downfall. I have a lot of sympathy towards him. Maybe we'll find out what happened to him during the last half of this season. I really hope he becomes a good guy.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:39 PM   #68
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Yeah, I feel the same way. Timothy isn't really a popular character and even though he brought it on himself I still feel sorry for him. What about his family?
His parents?

I don't understand, they could have just made a brief mention of Donnie saving him but they didn't even do that.

What I liked the most about Timothy's role was the character development for Donatello. He took him under his wing and tried to help him. That is what made "Mutagen Man Unleashed" still one of my favorite episodes.

Donatello doing everything he could to save Timothy, even calling him his "friend."

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Old 08-08-2017, 04:50 PM   #69
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I know, and he seemed so heartbroken when he had to freeze Timothy. Even then, he promised to find a cure for him.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:52 PM   #70
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It could be implied or mentioned that Donnie did use retromutagen on Timothy.

We know that Super Retromutagen can convert regular mutagen into regular mutagen. But what about retromutagen meeting with mutagen in its purest form...it could be like matter meeting anti-matter.

So the ironic trope of the thing that is supposed to cure him is what kills him in the end.
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Old 08-10-2017, 03:43 PM   #71
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Hmm...
Donatello, Casey Jones, and Timothy... all with a crush on April?


What do you call a love triangle if it involves more than 3 people?
A 19th Century novel? Seriously, you see it in Hunchback of Notre Dame with four men having a crush on Esmeralda and multiple men have a crush on Nastasya Filippovna in the Idiot.

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Also, probably a flawed theory, but did anyone else consider that everyone that have been successfully mutated have been in contact with an animal within short time, if not the last creature they were in contact with?
Timothy weren't in contact with any animals. But if he was in contact with the turtles that could have been the reason. In contact with someone that has already been mutated, seems like a good reason for a flaw with the mutagen there, if you ask me. (Actually this is pretty obvious)
Sort of the same for Mondo Gecko. I'm sure his gecko was on his shoulder at the time so the last thing he touched would be his clothes. They never specified it had to be the hands and they made it clear that you can merge with non-organic matter when you mutate.

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It could be implied or mentioned that Donnie did use retromutagen on Timothy.

We know that Super Retromutagen can convert regular mutagen into regular mutagen. But what about retromutagen meeting with mutagen in its purest form...it could be like matter meeting anti-matter.

So the ironic trope of the thing that is supposed to cure him is what kills him in the end.
Oh God! That would destroy my heart! Think of all Donnie's guilt!
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:21 PM   #72
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I do hope Tim gets a happy ending in the future because I actually liked his character and thought he meant well even if it didn't turn out the way he wanted it to. Plus the whole arc was a big thing for Donnie's development of compassion for someone and I hope they still touch on that.
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Old 09-13-2017, 10:58 AM   #73
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- According to Alan, he says that the end leaves many things unresolved, like the Timothy issue.

Timmy really isn't coming back...


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Old 09-13-2017, 12:41 PM   #74
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Timmy really isn't coming back...


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It's a shame. I was interested to see how it would end but I guess his character wasn't interesting enough. But they could at least have made some kind of mention of him.


I like to think Donnie found a cure and demutated Timothy off-screen sometime during or shortly after season 5. (finale excluded) With Donnie and the turtles helping him going back to his old life and/or become a better person.

(A few years have passed, I can't imagine they just kick him out on the street without helping him)

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Old 09-13-2017, 05:11 PM   #75
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They never specified it had to be the hands and they made it clear that you can merge with non-organic matter when you mutate.
I wish it was a little more clear in the show, but I was always under the impression he merged with the mutagen. I have an idea how they could have done this better, I'll have to make a storyboard or something sometime.
Anyway, notice how every other mutation happens instantly? "Character comes into contact with foreign dna, then mutagen = Mutation"
I figure the mutagen just sticks to his head and doesn't do anything because it's trying to calculate a problem it doesn't understand. Because of the suit, he's had no physical contact with anything or anyone.
Then, we see a close up of his bare hands hands landing in a puddle of stray mutagen on the floor and the active mutagen covering his body probably thought, "Good enough" and it combines the two subjects together.


Overall... I honestly thought he was a wasted character.
Way back in the season 3 ark, they could have easily had him join the Kraang. Imagine an episode ending with them raiding the lair, they enter Donnie's lab and start looting anything they find valuable or entitled to (Donnie did loot some of their materials), then one of them turns to the camera and points at it, "Take that as well-"
The shot shifts to the frozen Mutagen Man jar, "Kraang may have some use for this specimen." Scene cross fades into the hand drawn image, goes to black - roll credits.

I honestly thought they would upgrade Timothy with a mutagen tank or something to keep him powered on the go and use him as a tool to take on the turtles in favor of supplying him with mutagen. Maybe have a small arc where Timothy embraces his new form, and enjoys using his power to get what he wants and not have anyone tell him what to do. This could end with Donnie having to finally put his foot down and quit blaming himself for the Mutagen Man problem and... I dunno, have it end with Tim stuck in Dimension X... or, stranded on an alien planet... Frozen in space-

Whatever, my point is it's better than just keeping him as a frozen lava lamp in the background for 5 years and pretend like he doesn't exist.
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Old 09-14-2017, 06:43 PM   #76
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It's kind of funny in the crossover's first episode there's a scene where Donnie is bored and doesn't know what to do, and he kicks back his chair and you see the huge body of Mutagen Man just hanging on the wall, and the camera focuses on it for like 3 seconds.

It's like the writers were purposely putting an inside joke in on how they did nothing with Mutagen Man but let him rot.

Personally I don't think people would have cared as much if Don didn't promise him to demutate him. If he does just...died or something...nobody would have cared.
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It's kind of funny in the crossover's first episode there's a scene where Donnie is bored and doesn't know what to do, and he kicks back his chair and you see the huge body of Mutagen Man just hanging on the wall, and the camera focuses on it for like 3 seconds.

It's like the writers were purposely putting an inside joke in on how they did nothing with Mutagen Man but let him rot.

Personally I don't think people would have cared as much if Don didn't promise him to demutate him. If he does just...died or something...nobody would have cared.
I noticed that scene/joke as well, that just had to be done on purpose. I couldn't help but think... Uhm, you have something to work on right next to you...

I agree with the last part. They made an entire episode about Donnie taking responsibility for Timothy and a final scene where he called him his friend and promised to save him. It created expectations.

We just have to settle for an off-screen demutation now sometime in the future.
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Old 09-15-2017, 12:09 AM   #78
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Yeah, like nobody cares that they never demutated Spiderbitez, or Tiger Claw, or Snakeweed, etc....because it doesn't matter. He never said he would so nobody had any expectations for it.

But he specifically promised Timmy and felt bad about it, that's why we felt it should have happened.
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Old 09-15-2017, 12:28 AM   #79
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Timothy has no future, end of story.
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I agree that they should have done more with Tim and with Don's promise to save him, but if he isn't saved by the end of the series, I guess we'll just have to speculate via fan fiction.
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