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Old 08-13-2017, 11:58 PM   #41
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That episode was so good!!! I'm so glad they remember'd about Raph's shell being cracked, cause that was probably one of my favourite bits of thr episode.

I also noticed that the Kraang in this episode seemed less advanced here, than in previous episodes. That's really cool. Like their guns didn't have chainsaws on them like usual, the Kraang's bodys couldn't turn in all directions at the same time, like the bottom half changed first then the rest of the body moved. Idk I just thought since it was like 10 years in the past it was a cool little thing they did.

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Old 08-14-2017, 12:32 AM   #42
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Also, just a little side-note, did anyone find it odd that the episode didn't start with the present day turtles talking about their past and establishing the scene?

If it weren't for the theme song and I was shown this episode without having watched the Nick show, I wouldve thought this was the 1st episode of the series. Heck, Anyone who plans the marathons the show in the future could start with this episode instead of the season 1 premiere.
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:06 AM   #43
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Watched this one the Rise of the Turtles. Doesnt seem to be any continuity errors watching this as the 1st episode. All Splinter says about the Kraang is angrily "And you Let them get away?!"
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:46 AM   #44
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Also, just a little side-note, did anyone find it odd that the episode didn't start with the present day turtles talking about their past and establishing the scene?
I think a framing scene would have been cool. Even if it was just Leo looking at a picture of Splinter and closing his eyes to meditate.

But that would have just taken screen time from the flashback. I thought it was perfectly plotted and paced. And we all know that's not always easy for a 22 minute program.

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If it weren't for the theme song and I was shown this episode without having watched the Nick show, I wouldve thought this was the 1st episode of the series. Heck, Anyone who plans the marathons the show in the future could start with this episode instead of the season 1 premiere.
I could see that. But like I said, it looses a lot of impact if you don't watch it after Tale of the Yokai and Requiem/Owari.

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Watched this one the Rise of the Turtles. Doesnt seem to be any continuity errors watching this as the 1st episode. All Splinter says about the Kraang is angrily "And you Let them get away?!"
I was also compelled to watch the pilot later yesterday.

I guess you just have to assume that Splinter never really described the aliens he fought since no one believed Mikey when he saw a robot with a brain in its chest.
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:05 AM   #45
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I was also compelled to watch the pilot later yesterday.

I guess you just have to assume that Splinter never really described the aliens he fought since no one believed Mikey when he saw a robot with a brain in its chest.
But he did explain they were machines and that they were aliens in disguise, so it's still a contradiction.

Not that I really mind that much since this is probably one of the best episodes of the show, that and it's not like it's nearly the worst of the inconsistencies in the show.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:17 AM   #46
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Only just got round to watching this and episode 9 due to the confusing episode numbers caused by some sites classifying When Worlds Collide as either 1 episode or 2 episodes.
  • The turtles as toddlers are so cute!
  • A slightly different origin story. I like it.
  • "Written by Kevin Eastman". Awww yeah!
  • The turtles as babies are even cuter!
  • You can tell which one is Mikey ^_^
  • That Doctor Who reference was a bit on the nose.

Man, this episode really put Splinter through the ringer. It was nice to see him again, and the Kraang, and New York.

This is one of my favourite episodes of the entire series. It almost brought me to tears.

Eastman managed to write a better origin story than the recent movies did. When is Hollywood going to learn and just let him or someone else close to the franchise write the movies?

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I could not tell: Which turtle activated the water outlet when everyone was at the bottom of the water?
Was it Donnie? Sometimes I can not recognize them
I couldn't even tell what they were doing, never mind which turtle it was.
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:23 AM   #47
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Just a little thought

I know we all consider Mikey the youngest, but as Donnie didn't have any teeth and Splinter named him first, I wonder if Donnie is the youngest turtle and not Mikey.
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:30 AM   #48
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Just a little thought

I know we all consider Mikey the youngest, but as Donnie didn't have any teeth and Splinter named him first, I wonder if Donnie is the youngest turtle and not Mikey.
Surely it's just a malformation of the denture. I think there's a certain video from Nickelodeon telling a comic of them training with Splinter and overcoming psychological tests, and in that story it says Leo is the older, Raph the second, Donnie the third and Mikey the younger one.
Edit: I found the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjkL3scmD8Y

On the other hand, Kevin Eastman said on Reddit Donnie was the second older, but if the comic of Nick.com is canon, Donnie is the third one in the 2k12 universe.

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Old 08-14-2017, 11:43 AM   #49
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Surely it's just a malformation of the denture. I think there's a certain video from Nickelodeon telling a comic of them training with Splinter and overcoming psychological tests, and in that story it says Leo is the older, Raph the second, Donnie the third and Mikey the younger one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjkL3scmD8Y

On the other hand, Kevin Eastman said on Reddit Donnie was the second older, but if the comic of Nick.com is canon, Donnie is the third one in the 2k12 universe.
Yeah i'm not 100% on teething babies so your probably right with malformation of the denture thing.

It was just a small thought.

As Mikey is the youngest, There were couple of other things that Mikey seemed to develop faster than the others

He was able to stand and balance on a skate, while the others were still crawling, even Leo had trouble standing up on his own as he kept losing his balance.
Mikey was almost able to say Yum.
He certainly wasn't the runt because he was able to get the food first.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:21 PM   #50
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Fun fact: This is the first time Splinter told us how he named the Turtles in this series. I always found it weird the early Season 1 eps skipped over how the Turtles got their names, and they waited all the way till now to do it.

One other thing though, they never did explain how Yoshi got called, "Splinter" as his nickname. Since Shredder called him Splinter too, I think they must have named him that when they were war buddies if that picture in that Season 1 episode is any indication. But they still never directly said that.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:28 PM   #51
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Fun fact: This is the first time Splinter told us how he named the Turtles in this series. I always found it weird the early Season 1 eps skipped over how the Turtles got their names, and they waited all the way till now to do it.

One other thing though, they never did explain how Yoshi got called, "Splinter" as his nickname. Since Shredder called him Splinter too, I think they must have named him that when they were war buddies if that picture in that Season 1 episode is any indication. But they still never directly said that.
i wouldn't call them war buddies I would say they were likely part of the Japanese Self defense force.
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Fun fact: This is the first time Splinter told us how he named the Turtles in this series. I always found it weird the early Season 1 eps skipped over how the Turtles got their names, and they waited all the way till now to do it.

One other thing though, they never did explain how Yoshi got called, "Splinter" as his nickname. Since Shredder called him Splinter too, I think they must have named him that when they were war buddies if that picture in that Season 1 episode is any indication. But they still never directly said that.
The war buddy photo is itself kind of weird, it just raises more questions than it answers. What war was it? Why what army did they serve in? How old were they? How does it relate to ninja clan crap? I think they might have had different ideas of what their backstory was in season 1 and they were for some odd reason ignored in season 3.

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i wouldn't call them war buddies I would say they were likely part of the Japanese Self defense force.
Even if we just assume they were in the military without ever serving in a war (which I don't buy, nobody ever writes a character with a military past without serving in combat unless it's for a joke) it still kind of clashes with the whole ninja clan thing.
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The war buddy photo is itself kind of weird, it just raises more questions than it answers. What war was it? Why what army did they serve in? How old were they? How does it relate to ninja clan crap? I think they might have had different ideas of what their backstory was in season 1 and they were for some odd reason ignored in season 3.



Even if we just assume they were in the military without ever serving in a war (which I don't buy, nobody ever writes a character with a military past without serving in combat unless it's for a joke) it still kind of clashes with the whole ninja clan thing.
It was likely they were part of the JSDF for training purposes. Such as training to hone their combat skills. Or maybe even teaching stealth techniques.

http://images05.military.com/media/n...x600-ts600.jpg
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Well what war could Yoshi/Saki have been in? Since they look like they were in their 20's then, and in the current time they were in their mid/late 30's I guess, what war was it?

Does the Nick show in-universe start in 2012? So then 15 years prior it would be the 90's. Japan didn't have any major wars in the 90's.
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The war buddy photo is itself kind of weird, it just raises more questions than it answers. What war was it? Why what army did they serve in? How old were they? How does it relate to ninja clan crap? I think they might have had different ideas of what their backstory was in season 1 and they were for some odd reason ignored in season 3.



Even if we just assume they were in the military without ever serving in a war (which I don't buy, nobody ever writes a character with a military past without serving in combat unless it's for a joke) it still kind of clashes with the whole ninja clan thing.
I think the only two reasons we know they were in the military is to know that:

1.) They had experience honing their fighting skills even outside their dojo, making them as strong and skiled as they are in the series.

2.) How they were once very close brothers and their experiences together being in the army only strengthened their bond.
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:49 PM   #56
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I also noticed the local Chinese place was called Shanghai Sternin's Stirfry. Was that a deliberate season 1 reference or has that been there the whole time and I've just missed it?
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Fun fact: This is the first time Splinter told us how he named the Turtles in this series. I always found it weird the early Season 1 eps skipped over how the Turtles got their names, and they waited all the way till now to do it.

One other thing though, they never did explain how Yoshi got called, "Splinter" as his nickname. Since Shredder called him Splinter too, I think they must have named him that when they were war buddies if that picture in that Season 1 episode is any indication. But they still never directly said that.
No, he explained that he named them after Renaissance artists in the season 2 episode "The Good, The Bad, and Casey Jones." However, this is the first time we have learned that he wanted to be an artist as a child and that was why he liked the artists of the Renaissance.
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:54 PM   #58
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Fun episode and super cute. I know people were a little off put at first but I was pretty confident that people would turn around and see how cute they were.

This was the first red team episode, team Raphael to be exact. Long overdue as this was the first episode worked on after the Kavaxas arc. They did a great job and they got another episode to come. From my own experience I slightly helped out here. Nothing big as usual but I remember some specific shots that I helped with layout or fixes and a few other minor stuff.

The action was good as usual and it was great to see Splinter for the last time. And we got to see a lot of sides to him in the half hour which is great. His strength, his fears, regrets, humor, and kindness. I haven't watched the pilot in a long time and I remember thinking when I first saw the rough cut of this episode way back when and thought it might muddy continuity. But it seems that isn't too much of the case.
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No, he explained that he named them after Renaissance artists in the season 2 episode "The Good, The Bad, and Casey Jones." However, this is the first time we have learned that he wanted to be an artist as a child and that was why he liked the artists of the Renaissance.
I must have completely forgot about that then. After the Nick show ends I'm going to have to marathon through all 5 seasons at once, I really need to give the show a proper viewing again when it's all said and done.
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Did anyone else tear up when the Turtles were swimming Splinter to their new home? It just gave me shades of the end of "Requiem" when the Guys were all carrying Splinter back to the Shellraiser. It almost seemed like a "full circle" moment to me.
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