Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II Score - Page 9

*RaphaelinSTL* · 09-02-2017, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

Source? That seems really unlikely to me; vinyl is doing unusually well but I can hardly imagine an album (film score or not) on vinyl selling better than its CD counterpart.

I remember this from 2015 - but I know that vinyl sales are still on the rise for 2017.

I mean ... maybe something like Taylor Swift's newest album might have more CD sales compared to vinyl, but generally I've seen the shift in popular music favor more towards wax.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 09-02-2017, 04:02 PM

I didn't see anything in those articles explicitly saying that vinyl records are flat-out outselling CDs. It could be a situation where, in 2015, you sell 1 record for every 10 CDs, but in 2016, 2 records for every 5 CDs. Sales are increasing and decreasing respectively in that scenario, but CDs are still the better-selling format.

There was an "incident" a year ago though wherein a Bernard Herrmann score - Twisted Nerve - was released on vinyl only. Well actually it was a vinyl/CD/digital download set all in one package, which everyone thought was ridiculous. I don't know how well the release did, but it gave the company - Stylotone - a bit of a bad rep in the film score community. People here are die-hard turtle fans and if the music is released on some weird format, they'll buy it. Other people won't. Film score geeks are very comfortable with CDs and even digital downloads, but in a time where complete scores are released every single month on 2+CD sets, I don't think many want to return to vinyl.

Now granted there are some scores that do well on vinyl. LLL, Intrada, and even Varese have tried their luck and I think it's generally paid off, provided they choose the titles carefully. I think Star Trek: The Motion Picture on vinyl was a knockout for LLL, for instance.

d_osborn · 09-02-2017, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

I didn't see anything in those articles explicitly saying that vinyl records are flat-out outselling CDs. It could be a situation where, in 2015, you sell 1 record for every 10 CDs, but in 2016, 2 records for every 5 CDs. Sales are increasing and decreasing respectively in that scenario, but CDs are still the better-selling format.

There was an "incident" a year ago though wherein a Bernard Herrmann score - Twisted Nerve - was released on vinyl only. Well actually it was a vinyl/CD/digital download set all in one package, which everyone thought was ridiculous. I don't know how well the release did, but it gave the company - Stylotone - a bit of a bad rep in the film score community. People here are die-hard turtle fans and if the music is released on some weird format, they'll buy it. Other people won't. Film score geeks are very comfortable with CDs and even digital downloads, but in a time where complete scores are released every single month on 2+CD sets, I don't think many want to return to vinyl.

Now granted there are some scores that do well on vinyl. LLL, Intrada, and even Varese have tried their luck and I think it's generally paid off, provided they choose the titles carefully. I think Star Trek: The Motion Picture on vinyl was a knockout for LLL, for instance.

A TMNT score will be going after a far different audience than Bernard Herman.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 09-03-2017, 06:50 AM

I know, but a release like this can't be expected to capture the interests of TMNT fans alone. And if they want to make a profit, or at least make up for cost of production, they'll almost certainly want to branch out beyond only our fandom. I was just thinking of the last time a "vinyl-only" release happened for a score (which isn't even that well-known) and the reaction to it from the film score aficiandos. I'm saying this from the perspective of "a TMNT score release is probably expensive".

d_osborn · 09-03-2017, 01:16 PM

Current TMNT licensee Mondo seems to do very well with vinyl pressings of extremely niche movie scores.

https://mondotees.com/collections/music

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 09-03-2017, 01:47 PM

Those all look like the same program you'd find on CD, except on vinyl; those have less hurdles to jump. They're reissues. I think only one track from the whole TMNT score has ever been officially released, but even this might require a need to negotiate with Geffen Records for its use (unless that track was a suite or something) before moving on to acquiring the other legal necessities.

Anyway, I'm not trying to be a party pooper or anything, just making conversation about the viability of "special presentations" of film scores on vinyl.

d_osborn · 09-03-2017, 06:18 PM

I think there's a huge viability in special releases of movie scores on vinyl. See above.

The market seems to be doing very well. Gorgeous jacket art, to boot. Just because it's released on vinyl doesn't mean there won't be a CD release.

Time will tell!

I'm buying either way, but I would prefer vinyl.

at478 · 09-05-2017, 08:07 PM

someone named andy sent this to me in a private message
Hi,

I'm trading the sessions for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 and 3 by John du Prez, because they are not allowed to be shared here.

John du Prez:
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 2
1991
45 tracks - 51 min
true recording sessions
completely unreleased

John du Prez:
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 3
1993
43 tracks - 67 min
true recording sessions
completely unreleased

Drop me a line if you are interested. Jack be quick, as I'll only be here tonight!

Leonardo87 · 09-06-2017, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by at478

someone named andy sent this to me in a private message
Hi,

I'm trading the sessions for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 and 3 by John du Prez, because they are not allowed to be shared here.

John du Prez:
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 2
1991
45 tracks - 51 min
true recording sessions
completely unreleased

John du Prez:
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 3
1993
43 tracks - 67 min
true recording sessions
completely unreleased

Drop me a line if you are interested. Jack be quick, as I'll only be here tonight!

It's a scam. Don't buy into it. Just wait until it's officially released when it does.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 09-06-2017, 05:54 AM

'Andy' is a scalper who gets the bootlegs that all the normal traders have and tries to re-sell them to people who don't waste their time with that. He does this on other websites too and it's pretty annoying.

at478 · 09-06-2017, 06:16 AM

thx for the heads up. i knew it would be a scam. if i didnt have anything to trade, he wanted me to give give him $50 bucks for both scores through paypal. that's shady.

sgtfbomb · 09-06-2017, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939

'Andy' is a scalper who gets the bootlegs that all the normal traders have and tries to re-sell them to people who don't waste their time with that. He does this on other websites too and it's pretty annoying.

I got two messages from the guy on another forum. So this person's also bugging people here?

at478 · 09-06-2017, 05:43 PM

no this is from ffshrine sgft

*pferreira* · 09-07-2017, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtfbomb

Vinyl would be cool, but it's not very practical for me. I don't own a record player, so an LP would just be something cool to look at. Heck, soundtracks are the only albums I still buy in CD format.

i tend to find whenever a video game soundtrack is released on vinyl someone buys it, doesn't have a record player and so just leaves it as a collector's item gathering dust. With CD soundtracks at least you feel tempted to actually use them.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 10-08-2017, 12:23 PM

Well, something finally leaked over at a certain website...

Spoiler:

I don't know if I'm allowed to post a link here or even talk about it, given the dubious legality of it. Just, er, PM me with any questions.

sgtfbomb · 10-08-2017, 03:27 PM

Looking at that site, they're listing it as "recording sessions." Is that accurate? I believe SOTO isn't technically complete. IIRC "A Way Out" should have included the "Step up to the bar boys!" bit. Unless it appears somewhere else?

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 10-08-2017, 04:10 PM

I believe TMNT II is missing a cue or two. No clue about the compeleteness TMNT III, but both should be more than enough for people to enjoy. The term "recordings sessions" is very, very loosely used for just about any of these leaks. I've only ever actually seen one set of honest recording sessions leak.

*Sabacooza* · 10-08-2017, 07:27 PM

I got them but the 3rd film score is all flac files. I have to look into how to convert them.

All we need now is the holy grail of film scores that being the 1990 movie.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 10-08-2017, 08:46 PM

According to the rumor mill, the original score is on analog rather than DAT, which makes transferring the elements a little harder. Plus it's probably more "valuable" since it's the original (no one cares about II or III as much as the first) and wouldn't leak as quickly.

btw... there are seven missing cues from II. The DAT tape was apparently damaged and they were un-salvageable.

sgtfbomb · 10-09-2017, 07:42 AM

I guess time will tell on those missing tracks. I feel like an official release for some of these scores, if not all, isn't too far off.

09-05-2017, 08:07 PM	#168
at478 Random Punk Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 25	huh someone named andy sent this to me in a private message Hi, I'm trading the sessions for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 and 3 by John du Prez, because they are not allowed to be shared here. John du Prez: TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 2 1991 45 tracks - 51 min true recording sessions completely unreleased John du Prez: TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES 3 1993 43 tracks - 67 min true recording sessions completely unreleased Drop me a line if you are interested. Jack be quick, as I'll only be here tonight!

09-06-2017, 06:16 AM	#171
at478 Random Punk Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 25	oh thx for the heads up. i knew it would be a scam. if i didnt have anything to trade, he wanted me to give give him $50 bucks for both scores through paypal. that's shady.

09-06-2017, 05:43 PM	#173
at478 Random Punk Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 25	trade no this is from ffshrine sgft

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09-03-2017, 01:16 PM	#165
d_osborn Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,338	Current TMNT licensee Mondo seems to do very well with vinyl pressings of extremely niche movie scores. https://mondotees.com/collections/music

09-03-2017, 06:18 PM	#167
d_osborn Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,338	I think there's a huge viability in special releases of movie scores on vinyl. See above. The market seems to be doing very well. Gorgeous jacket art, to boot. Just because it's released on vinyl doesn't mean there won't be a CD release. Time will tell! I'm buying either way, but I would prefer vinyl.

10-08-2017, 03:27 PM	#176
sgtfbomb Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Internet Posts: 830	Looking at that site, they're listing it as "recording sessions." Is that accurate? I believe SOTO isn't technically complete. IIRC "A Way Out" should have included the "Step up to the bar boys!" bit. Unless it appears somewhere else?

10-08-2017, 07:27 PM	#178
Sabacooza Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,986	I got them but the 3rd film score is all flac files. I have to look into how to convert them. All we need now is the holy grail of film scores that being the 1990 movie.

10-09-2017, 07:42 AM	#180
sgtfbomb Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Internet Posts: 830	I guess time will tell on those missing tracks. I feel like an official release for some of these scores, if not all, isn't too far off.