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Old 03-29-2023, 01:04 PM   #101
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I'm "gaslighting" and "hiding behind an accuracy"? You're implying that I care about any of this stuff enough to even think about it that deeply. I don't. Again, to make it super simple: If this is good, I'll watch it with my kids and have a good time. If it isn't, I'll have forgotten about it by the time the credits roll (assuming I even watch it completely).
Well in that case I'll make it super simple and say that I was trying to meet your point intellectually rather than just saying that it was dogshit and didn't make any sense given the conversation.

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Again, to make it super simple: If this is good, I'll watch it with my kids and have a good time. If it isn't, I'll have forgotten about it by the time the credits roll (assuming I even watch it completely).
Nothing wrong with this at all - actually that's a point I have respect for. But there is likely a distinct cultural difference at the moment -

Here in America we are at a boiling point after years of nonsense where we are drawing lines of consumer-decision-making in regards to our entertainment. If over in Germany or wherever you are you haven't had years of this stuff piling up on you, then I'm sure your perception is different. But many people here don't want to pay for woke $#!( anymore and they don't want to pay for material where some woke $#!( @$$hole like Rogen has put his awkward and unattractive sensibility all over something, man.

And on top of that, this movie just doesn't look good on it's own merits anyway. So anybody posting that they aren't paying for this is just as valid as you not giving a $#!( one way or the other because for you it's just a means of taking your kids out for a day.
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Old 03-29-2023, 01:07 PM   #102
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By the way, why do you censor 'dogshit'? The word bypasses our swearword filter.
Because we have major censorship issues here in America. You can never be too careful, ‘cause if you aren’t careful enough, you could get banned.
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Old 03-29-2023, 01:20 PM   #103
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If things keep going well, we may just get another movie aimed at longtime fans, in the next 5-10 years. Viacom already hinted that they are still interested in live-action TMNT. I really do think we’ll get something along those lines, with the way things are going for the brand. For now, I’m just enjoying the fact that the brand is flourishing in other aspects.
Its cool that there is TLR stuff, but I'd like to see stuff even aimed at kids to have a certain level of quality.

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I'm watching it because I lobe TMNT and I am going to support the movie. not that hard to comprehend.
So you're ready to support any garbage that has TMNT branding on it? Not that I am saying new movie will be a garbage.

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you have seen the movie already? wow! good for you!
Do I need to see a movie to have a judgement about designs?
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Old 03-29-2023, 01:25 PM   #104
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Sorry, I feel like I made perfect sense. I even mentioned that I have a general problem with this kind of fan rage. I didn't want to offend anyone with my initial post, I'm just saying that I don't understand why you would sleep about this, TMNT fan or not. If it's a general cultural problem, then rage away, I'm not getting into that kind of discussion anymore.
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Old 03-29-2023, 01:29 PM   #105
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You know this conversation had me thinking - I have only seen a Ninja Turtles movie in the theaters 3 times. 1990, SOTO and TMNT (which I still think is an entertaining flick that looked decent).

Never saw part 3 in the theaters, neither of the Bay movies and definitely am not paying to see this repurposed Rise of the TMNT movie.
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Old 03-29-2023, 01:31 PM   #106
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Old 03-29-2023, 02:54 PM   #107
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I'm pretty sure this film has nothing to do with Rise of the TMNT. The only connections are some visual themes and a similar version of April.
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Old 03-29-2023, 08:29 PM   #108
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I'm pretty sure this film has nothing to do with Rise of the TMNT. The only connections are some visual themes and a similar version of April.
I said "repurposed". And those visual themes and similar version of April clearly, to most reasonable people, are also indicators of this.
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Why does this feel so prophetic?
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Old 03-30-2023, 01:58 AM   #110
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I‘m not very familiar with `Rise‘ but what are the similiarities between the two Aprils? Besides, the skin colour, I mean. At first glance, they seem really different.
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Old 03-30-2023, 09:06 AM   #111
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I said "repurposed". And those visual themes and similar version of April clearly, to most reasonable people, are also indicators of this.
“Repurposed” implies a connection.

Nah, that’s not sound logic imo. Two things being slightly similar doesn’t necessarily imply one is repurposed from another. It can just be a trend, where the zeitgeist is at, or simply directions from Viacom that cause similarities. No indicator that this was once a Rise… project.

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I‘m not very familiar with `Rise‘ but what are the similiarities between the two Aprils? Besides, the skin colour, I mean. At first glance, they seem really different.
Nothing, really. Just the skin color, you’re right.

Really no evidence of these two things having any sort of connection aside from a few visual motifs.

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I‘m not very familiar with `Rise‘ but what are the similiarities between the two Aprils? Besides, the skin colour, I mean. At first glance, they seem really different.
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Nothing, really. Just the skin color, you’re right.
At a glance, the glasses, too. While it's possible you could pull two black April O'Neils out of the ether and end up with both of them wearing glasses, it seems somewhat unlikely as glasses has never been an April O'Neil thing until Rise. Both seem to have their hair pulled up similarly in the back.
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Old 03-30-2023, 10:51 AM   #113
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At a glance, the glasses, too. While it's possible you could pull two black April O'Neils out of the ether and end up with both of them wearing glasses, it seems somewhat unlikely as glasses has never been an April O'Neil thing until Rise. Both seem to have their hair pulled up similarly in the back.
Sure, but that doesn't indicate that one is re-purposed from another. There could be a number of reasons that both versions have a black April with glasses aside from that. I would say the hairstyles being similar is a stretch though.
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Sure, but that doesn't indicate that one is re-purposed from another.
It may suggest a kind of "new template" for April that they're using. But I don't know. I haven't even seen a single scene with Rise's April to weigh in on personality, demeanor, etc., and definitely have no plans to.
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hello - is this true or are you simply trolling me?
Don't think so, had told me the same previously that a second wave of toys in planned.
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It may suggest a kind of "new template" for April that they're using. But I don't know. I haven't even seen a single scene with Rise's April to weigh in on personality, demeanor, etc., and definitely have no plans to.
From what I've seen, Rise April is super obnoxious while the character from the teaser seems rather calm. The hairstyle is also totally different. But you're right about the glasses.
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Old 03-30-2023, 04:24 PM   #118
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We know who the character designer is, the director, the producers.

I just don’t see how all these people are working off or “Rise assets”.

I’m seeing more indications it’s just an original product. I’ve heard Seth Rogen talk about it a couple times in the last month and it seems like he’s actually pretty involved and into it, so I don’t see it.
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We know who the character designer is, the director, the producers.

I just don’t see how all these people are working off or “Rise assets”.

I’m seeing more indications it’s just an original product. I’ve heard Seth Rogen talk about it a couple times in the last month and it seems like he’s actually pretty involved and into it, so I don’t see it.
Okay, I think the whole "Rise assets" thing was more metaphorical. I don't think it was meant literally.

This movie, in terms of it's general tone and asethetic, is CLEARLY taking a lot of cues from "Rise." It's an original TMNT story, but there's no way to look at this thing honestly and not see the clear paralles between this and "Rise." No, I don't think it's literally made of any recycled assets, but they were clearly working from the same bin of legos, if you know what I mean.
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Old 03-30-2023, 09:02 PM   #120
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true; i emailed playmates about it.
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