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Old 06-03-2018, 12:31 AM   #481
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Yes, here we are... RIP, Star Trek.
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I take it you're not a fan of the reboot films?
F*** no. I mean, it's hard to say Star Trek 2009 wasn't entertaining... but to paraphrase Padme, it's like... "So this is how Star Trek dies... to thunderous applause?"

That that sort of... "take" on Star Trek has carried over into the TV universe now, too... despicable. I can't spit enough venom or hurl enough bad vibes at it. It's quintessentially the antithesis of Star Trek on almost every level. Not even the component atoms bare any resemblance to "real Trek." It's a hollow and completely transparent re-appropriation of a brand to sell it to the lowest common denominator.

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I thought the first was okay and Into Darkness kind of dumb, but I really enjoyed Beyond.
"Into Darkness" exposed how threadbare their "plan" and "new vision" for Trek really was. "Beyond" was OK for what it was, but after "Into Darkness" nobody cared so nobody saw it.
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:03 AM   #482
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yep. new star trek is all flash, no substance. just like new star wars is. all flash, no universe story telling.



i was looking at the new falcon again and thought... why does that 'escape pod' addition just scream new toy sale tactic? we've never seen an escape pod that was the size of half the ship before. it just seems goofy.
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Old 06-03-2018, 09:06 AM   #483
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I'd be more keen to see another Trek movie than another SW at the mo (but then I liked the last Trek Movie) now I'm going to go before the new Trek haters chase me off ..... and those who loved the last SW movie and might find that a massive insult (trolling not intended guys )

Edit: That being said, our expectations of a movie also count towards how we feel when we come out the theatre, I had higher expectations for Ep 9 than a lot of movies so that counts towards it, not watched it a 2nd time yet.

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Old 06-03-2018, 09:28 AM   #484
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My only experience with Trek was the reboot movie. I didn't like It but I watched it a second time since everyone told me it was great but it still didn't grab me.
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Old 06-03-2018, 09:31 AM   #485
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My only experience with Trek was the reboot movie. I didn't like It but I watched it a second time since everyone told me it was great but it still didn't grab me.
Everyone... being on a different site and not the drome? I think there's me and maybe 1? on here I liked the reboot (Though not as original cast)

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Old 06-03-2018, 09:33 AM   #486
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watch TNG's 'Where No one has Gone Before'.

if that doesn't get you..nothing will.

for something slightly more goofy, A Naked time from TNG will also do.
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Old 06-03-2018, 09:58 AM   #487
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Everyone... being on a different site and not the drome? I think there's me and maybe 1? on here I liked the reboot (Though not as original cast)
Well the movie originally came out in 2009 and yeah not the drome but tech communities back then raved about the movie a lot so even if I'd never been interested in Trek before I checked it out since it was hyped as "finally Trek is like Star Wars" or "a fresh new take on Trek", "The trek you love but without all the baggage" and it was just ok, I watched it again to see if it clicked but nope.

I'm sure some hardcore fans hated it since the first movie but I think the general consensus backlash started with the first sequel.

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watch TNG's 'Where No one has Gone Before'.

if that doesn't get you..nothing will.

for something slightly more goofy, A Naked time from TNG will also do.
The thing is I'm not a fan of watching a random episode to get hooked, I'm kind of a continuity geek and if I start watching Trek I'll want to watch EVERYTHING. So that also stops me, I came close one day when every show was on Netflix.

But maybe I'll give it a shot one day, then again if I start with the best episode what's next for me?
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:26 AM   #488
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i was looking at the new falcon again and thought... why does that 'escape pod' addition just scream new toy sale tactic? we've never seen an escape pod that was the size of half the ship before. it just seems goofy.
They may have made a slight oversight in Solo regarding that... I think Han only mention one escape pod, but it could quite possibly have been more as a whole.

Re A New Hope arriving at the happy fun ball...

Khurgee: According to the ship's log, the crew abandoned ship right after take off. It must be a decoy sir, several of the escape pods have also been jettisoned.
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I dwelled into the SW fandom because I started reading this tweeter war for the biggest SW podcast and man, this is really different than all the previous times I've been in the SW fandom. Disney Star Wars has created a lot more hostility than the prequels ever did. The ones defending are vicious in their attacks to those who don't like it, even if a minority and it's creating a lot of animosity in the fandom. Just listen to the Han Solo episode of Rebel Force Radio, and they liked the film but they go on about the problems with Disney Star Wars, I tend to agree with almost all points, only they're a lot more hopeful for the future than me.

The key points that stuck out to me were that Disney SWs has no vision, Marvel has worked because it has a vision but also SW, even if the prequels sucked they had a vision that was planned out. This movie would've done better without Han Solo and legacy characters and also this movie is suffering the effects of The Last Jedi backlash in terms of numbers. No matter how you spin it, this is a huge failure. Other stuff I agree on a lot but I've already mentioned it here before many times like not telling new stories.
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They may have made a slight oversight in Solo regarding that... I think Han only mention one escape pod, but it could quite possibly have been more as a whole.

Re A New Hope arriving at the happy fun ball...

Khurgee: According to the ship's log, the crew abandoned ship right after take off. It must be a decoy sir, several of the escape pods have also been jettisoned.
I always found that line odd. the ship seemed too small to have seven escape pods.
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Yesterday, Ron Howard shared his latest thoughts on the film's underperformance.

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Iím proud of #SoloAStarWarsStory and the cast & crew worked hard to give fans a fun new addition. As a director I feel badly when people who I believe (& exit polls show) will very likely enjoy a movie... donít see it on a big screen w/great sound.
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