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Old 06-10-2018, 09:58 AM   #16121
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So does Lesnar need to retain at Summerslam or has he already broken Punk's record?
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:10 AM   #16122
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So does Lesnar need to retain at Summerslam or has he already broken Punk's record?
According to wikipedia today is the day he tied Punk's record 434 days.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:14 AM   #16123
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According to wikipedia today is the day he tied Punk's record 434 days.
Just a day after Punk took a pummeling.

Maybe this is God's way of trolling Phil.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:42 AM   #16124
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That's with the Universal championship, though. Punks record is with the WWE championship. They're not doing it with that anytime soon because it would take a year and a half to get the job done. It also means less because, regardless of title, Brocks defended the Universal belt, like, six times total in what will be close to a year and a half by Summerslam, two of those in the same month. Say what you want about the lackluster second half of Punks title reign, dude was always around with it and defending it about once a month, barring the month or so he had to let a minor injury heal.

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If someone's gonna successfully cash in on Brock, I hope it's Finn. He deserves it the most.
I like Finn and I'm hoping he holds the title again at some point, but I'm waiting for him to really do something before I start looking for him to win any titles. I feel like he's been sort of fading into the background recently, killer IC title matches with Seth and others aside. Whether that's as a face or with a heel turn is fine with me, just do something with him, I guess. Give him a feud where he seems to feel something or invest in, rather than just smile and laugh it off.

I'd be interested in seeing him turn, though. Embrace a darker side of himself and bring back the demon as a thing he does, maybe re-contextualized through his heel character. He's only pulled out the Demon paint twice on the main roster, after all.

All that said, I won't be particularly upset if it is Finn that wins the briefcase. I just ask they do something with him before the cash-in. And man, just no with the "briefcase holder loses all the time". I don't know who gave Vince the idea that it makes the cash-in more surprising, but it doesn't.
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Old 06-10-2018, 01:43 PM   #16125
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You know, WWE has not been promoting Brock held the universal title for xxx days. It seems like the company would or is the title in limbo and WWE does not know what to do with it? Roman should have just gotten in beforehand. Not because I am a fan of his, but because Brock holding the title has made it irrelevant with his lack of presence. This is worse than Hogan dropping a title to get it back IMHO.
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Old 06-10-2018, 04:30 PM   #16126
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Kane Says His Character Was Originally Meant For Only One Match
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:01 AM   #16127
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You know, WWE has not been promoting Brock held the universal title for xxx days.
Yeah, that's part of why I think people are way overthinking the Punk record thing. We've seen what happens when WWE wants to erase a record from the books for petty reasons already. At least twice now. AJ Lee and Demolition, just off the top of my head. They talked up how close the records were to being broken for like two months beforehand both times, letting you know damn well they were breaking that record and implanting the new one in your brain through repetition. When WWE decides to get petty, they go all the way. I'm not sure Vince McMahon knows subtlety anymore, if he ever did.

Plus, I mean, it was a cool statistic and "longest WWE title reign since Hogans first" is a cool thing for sure, but it wasn't really a record anyway.

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It seems like the company would or is the title in limbo and WWE does not know what to do with it? Roman should have just gotten in beforehand.
I think the idea was to get sympathy for Roman and hopefully turn the crowd around on him by giving him some good, high profile defeats. It's likely as simple as that. It's just that, like everything they've tried, it didn't work. I mean, Roman's really unique in this position. Let's not sleep on the fact that they've used tricks that have pulled crowds behind faces since long before even Hogan. Wrestlemania this year was unbelievably blatant. They set aside the no blood rule to go old school gutsy babyface, struggling through with a crimson mask but showing grit and heart against high odds. That trick's almost sure fire and it whiffed hard. Then there's the Greatest Royal Rumble, where Roman got "screwed" out of the title. It's been suggested to be a botch, but Roman getting off the cage wall so quick and how hard they've ridden that talking point suggests to me it was planned.

If they go with someone else at SummerSlam, all's well that ends well, but if they try the third Brock vs Roman match this year the whole thing has been pointless.

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Not because I am a fan of his, but because Brock holding the title has made it irrelevant with his lack of presence.
Brock not being around is an issue that's plagued the title, but it hasn't truly become relevant yet for reasons other than just him. The Universal title hasn't really had a defining title run or signature classic title matches. Finn had it for a day before relinquishing due to injury, Kevin Owens had it for half a year but he wasn't exactly an effective champion during his run and Goldberg was a feel good transitional champion. I think they wanted Brock to be the first definitive champion, but it hasn't worked out partly because Brocks ring work these days is rather lazy and unexciting and because of the scattershot title defenses. As for the key matches, it's had only three in its history that you'd hold up; the inaugural title match, Brock and Goldbergs quick hoss fest and the fatal four way at last years SummerSlam.

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This is worse than Hogan dropping a title to get it back IMHO.
If you're talking about Luger winning the title and dropping it back like a week later, let's not get hyperbolic. That nonsense was peak Hogan. Let the guy get the win, but immediately invalidate it and make him look like a goober. This was also during the period and title reign where Hogan defended almost as much as Brock. Big difference was Hogan was at least around more, even if he mostly just cut twenty minute closing promos saying the same basic stuff.

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Good call all around. Vince had a marketable wrestler with a gimmick that worked and Kane got a twenty one year - and counting - career out of it. Probably up there with one of the more successful gimmick changes in history, actually. He wasn't exactly going places before he got the Kane gimmick.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:21 AM   #16128
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I think AJ was still fresh in people's minds when they had Nikki break her streak. I'm not even sure if WWE would even want to mention CM Punk's name when it comes time to break his record.
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WWE continues to reach a more global market as it did with Saudi Arabia. The Super Showdown in Melbourne featuring the main event of The Undertaker vs Triple H.
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the main event of The Undertaker vs Triple H.
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