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Old 06-13-2018, 08:36 PM   #481
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I know, right? Well, to be fair, the name Semour was already taken by Mutagen Man, so.... but they could have at least referred to it as Audry, one would think.
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When will these guys be able to be given the same kind of respect that other hero characters get... Makes me sad for them that they don't.

Being as how I work for a card company now and have started this job while the graduation and Father's Day cards are stocked (plus certain birthday cards), I've seen a bunch of really awesome Batman, Superman, Captain America, and even one Hulk, themed cards. Cool ones for adults.

What, the Turtles can't get that kind of respect because they aren't human? They're human enough. >.> They can do serious.



A couple examples of those I've seen in person, there are a number of others for adults and even more I've seen online while just now looking for those I've seen in person.



Captain America seems to be common right now (this one is for Father's Day but I've seen Grad cards too), and okay there's a recent film so I guess it's with good reason, but still.

The Batman one is a birthday card I really like. (Just simply says "Do it justice" on the inside.) The Turtles could very easily (and we all know they very well have) pull off a cool, dignified silhouette image and other awesome artwork...

Give me a card kinda like that Batman one (maybe less distance) but make it Leo up there looking all regal looking out over the city...I'd end up framing it. Dammit I want this for my boy and his bros.


We seriously need some good TMNT minded artists who can do that sort of thing among the designers for these card companies! I wish some of those with the talent and skills would consider that avenue for their artwork as well. Cards might be expensive but I'd end up with a whole new thing to collect. lol
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Old Yesterday, 10:06 AM   #483
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Now PD had PG13 but for some reason I think people tend to still see it as 'kids only' do they? (non turtle fans I mean) or am I wrong?
Yeah, there's still a pretty strong sigma against them.

It's a major shame that these last films were not handled more seriously. If they had had the level of writing and producing that garnered them a whole series of films it could very well have helped people, outside the basic fandom, take them more seriously.

2016 did so much better on the interactions of the brothers and family drama among them, upping the relatableness by a lot, giving people more reason and opportunity to care about them this time, but then tanked the whole film with weak, anticlimactic storytelling and trying to add in a touch of unnecessary goofiness inspired by the first cartoon (though I'm glad it was limited and not all of them were even involved in that aspect).

I mean...just play them off as a bunch of misfit brothers and accidental heroes that just happen to be mutants. They don't really have to focus on the fact that they're Turtles... they just are. No more than the details of "Rise" should be focusing on the fact that the new April is black... she just is. Let characters be green, black or what have you without having to point at it and make a spectacle of it to make sure that we know.

If they don't have to point it out SO MUCH -- yes, yes, we KNOW they're Turtles, everyone knows -- then maybe people could start to get over the sigma that they're just "talking animals" and therefor a "kid's thing." I mean... it's the Turtles, they can do serious. We know they can. It's not like we're asking someone to turn, say, Roger Rabbit serious. It shouldn't be that hard.

2016 at the very least allowed them to be PEOPLE enough that my mom ended up deciding she has a favorite Turtle now. Too bad the film makers screwed the chances to go further.
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Yeah, there's still a pretty strong sigma

2016 at the very least allowed them to be PEOPLE enough that my mom ended up deciding she has a favorite Turtle now. Too bad the film makers screwed the chances to go further.
Yeah, I'd deleted my prev post as I wasn't sure I was right in what I was saying but yes with PG13 movies there's that chance to grab that 'all ages' recognition that the superhero movies get.

so who's your mom's fav? just curious?
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Oops, sorry. I take way too long in writing my posts. lol Didn't realized you deleted it.

Mikey is her fave. As of 2016; we saw both films but 2014 didn't hold enough appeal to choose. (His design tweaks probably also helped.) The funny little brother, and then pulling at the heartstrings at one point...I probably should have been able to guess it would be him.
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Oops, sorry. I take way too long in writing my posts. lol Didn't realized you deleted it.

Mikey is her fave. As of 2016; we saw both films but 2014 didn't hold enough appeal to choose. (His design tweaks probably also helped.) The funny little brother, and then pulling at the heartstrings at one point...I probably should have been able to guess it would be him.
It's strange, I mentioned this in conversation the other day I liked his face the least out of all of them, even though it wasn't like overly done or anything, just the face itself, for some reason I didn't like it.

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It's basically all the same mindset that makes parents think Watership Down is an appropriate movie to babysit show their kids on Easter unattended. Or at least related to it if "the same" is too much of a broad stroke.


I would think about giving the turtles a Guardians of the Galaxy treatment that leans more on the Rocket Raccoon side of the story. To put it on a MCU perspective.
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I wonder what Peter Laird was thinking when he drew that initial sketch of the Mutagen Man? Between this and the 4Kids version of Baxter, did he just have a thing for organs in glass tubes?
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It's strange, I mentioned this in conversation the other day I liked his face the least out of all of them, even though it wasn't like overly done or anything, just the face itself, for some reason I didn't like it.
Yeah, he's last on the list for me too, but too each their own I guess. Maybe it's just personality for the most part, but at least he comparatively looks a little better in the second than the first. The first one... egads. (Although I quite enjoyed all the "it's just a mask" parody videos. )



Was roaming around looking for weird bootlegs and whatnot for the heck of it and saw...this giant inflatable Mikey.





I'm disappointed that they don't make all four. Putting a 2+ story tall Turtle in your yard just isn't the same without the whole set.

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