09-09-2017, 03:02 PM | #21 |
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No need, and I'm not surprised. A series playing on various science fiction from between the 19th century and late-1980's does it better fixing time travel using technological time machines.
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09-10-2017, 05:06 AM | #22 | |
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BTW, what you said about growth is not true - final seasons of the FW series, portray Turtles in more serious and mature light and in the final episode, Splinter graduates them from students. |
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09-10-2017, 05:15 AM | #23 |
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They don't really remember it and saying that people still love it is misleading, most people are only have vague recollections and remember liking it even if they don't know why.
That's kinda ********, they just gave the show a different art style and toned down the so called comedy, nothing important changed. |
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09-10-2017, 01:17 PM | #25 |
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Because for most people TMNT is just a passing fad from their childhood. Same thing you see with people talking about Power Rangers or Pokemon, etc.
A lot of people never stuck with these franchises and just watched the first few years of it when they were kids and moved on and never revisited it. You see this for any long running franchise or kid fad. That's why they barely remember anything about it but the basics like the characters. They couldn't tell you any story details or bring up any episodes because they literally don't know or remember anything about it. |
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09-11-2017, 10:35 AM | #27 |
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Here's the comparison about ridiculous with Fred Wolf and Mirage on a foundational level;
Fred Wolf -A goofy rhino and warthog, and alien brain-like creature,violent masked vigilante Casey hones, all kinds of weird and wacky aliens, comedic time travel, a mutant gator named leatherhead, and guest star usagi yojimbo. Mirage-A female lead who's a goofy sketch brought to life, violent masked vigilante Casey Jones, a race of alien brain like creatures, all kinds of weird and wacky aliens, comedic time travel, a mutant gator named leatherhead, and guest star Usagi Yojimbo So as you can see, the OT concepts on paper aren't just goofy because of presentation in a terrible 30-year old comedy-based cartoon, but Fred Wolf is totally ridiculous when it's core concepts are put side by side with the much more serious Mirage comics.... .... ...wait a minute... |
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I'm not trying to rewrite history, I watched those episodes like half a year ago. It's just the same show trying to be edgier from before in a very superficial way, that's all the Red Sky episodes are. |
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Like David Wise.
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I said in another post that David feels very attached to the show, he was the main guy behind it for nine years. Considering how the network treated him I give him a brake when it comes to being a revisionist. If he comes across as territorial and rude regarding his work I put the blame on Harlan Ellison. Quote:
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Anyway, Season 1's storyline has some Mirage parallels. There's a fight with a street gang, Baxter and the Mousers, the Turtles save April, and they tell her their origin story, the Foot becomes an "Army of crime" under Shredder, Splinter goes missing and the Turtles break into a high-tech alien facility to rescue him, April's apartment gets destroyed. You can kinda see how Mirage at the time (filtered through the limitations of 80s kids shows) can get reshaped into that. |
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09-16-2017, 02:21 PM | #32 |
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I prefer the turtles having to rescue Splinter from the bad guys instead of from the Utroms. Utroms can be introduced in other ways.
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09-20-2017, 11:20 AM | #33 |
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I can see that. It's not like Splinter has to be missing to give them a reason to break into TCRI, after all.
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09-20-2017, 04:36 PM | #34 |
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You can have Shredder learning about the Utroms (maybe through Baxter Stockman), trying to break in to steal mutagen to mutate Bebop and Rocksteady. The turtles would then learn about it, and go after Shredder into TCRI to stop him.
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09-21-2017, 09:28 AM | #35 |
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10-07-2017, 09:29 AM | #37 |
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Just thought of another example of FW adapting Mirage's "Early Installment Weirdness". I mentioned Casey's appearance, but it also applies to his personality.
In Casey's first appearance, he was just plain crazy, he was inspired by old cop-shows and action movies (the tragic origin about his Dad's store was a retcon that came much later) and he was ready to kill people for picking pockets and stealing hub-caps. When he appears again (with his more iconic long hair), he's more of a classic "tough-guy" archetype, he's more "rounded" and he gets developed/deconstructed further in stories like "Shades of Grey". FW Casey is a straight up exaggeration of his first Mirage appearance, complete with a "Clint Eastwood" voice to emphasize his action-movie obsession. |
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Yeah, I guess he would.
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