VENOM Movie Coming From Sony - Not A Joke!

[Andrew NDB]

It's like... I don't regret seeing it, but I'm not super glad I did either.

[Leo656]

I'm a huge fan of how fast everyone went from being 100% "Venom without Spider-Man? What a garbage idea!" TO "bEST MOVIE EVAR!!!!" just because they got his eyes and tongue right.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm a huge fan of how fast everyone went from being 100% "Venom without Spider-Man? What a garbage idea!" TO "bEST MOVIE EVAR!!!!" just because they got his eyes and tongue right.

Yeah, I know. Everybody got on board the hype train without a whimper after the movie came out. Weird.

[Leo656]

It's how people are anymore.

"Bitch, whine, bitch, whine, doomsday prophecy, bitch, whine, etc.", two years straight before Movie X comes out.

Movie comes out. "OOOOH, SHINY! ME LOVE THING!"

It's like how at first, everyone hated The Rock, to the point of chanting "Die, Rocky, Die!" at him for years. Now everyone's in romantic love with him. Absolutely nothing changed, aside from people one day got sick of hating him and decided to love him instead. He didn't actually do anything differently to change their opinions, it was like a collective form of mass hysteria. "Didn't you hate this guy just yesterday?" "Yeah, but... I'unno."

People are f*ckin' weird.

[AquaParade]

The way it seemed to me is that everyone was absolutely ready to hate the film, until it actually came out and turned out to be better than they expected.

I haven't seen the film, but speaking on a general consensus, that's the vibe I got. I haven't heard any group clamoring that it's great. While it's making a ton of money, I assume that's from the casual audience, who weren't really chiming in with educated opinions on the subject anyway.

I have a feeling I won't like it. But what do I know? I love BvS and can't sit through Guardians of the Galaxy.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Leo656

It's how people are anymore.

"Bitch, whine, bitch, whine, doomsday prophecy, bitch, whine, etc.", two years straight before Movie X comes out.

Movie comes out. "OOOOH, SHINY! ME LOVE THING!"

It's like how at first, everyone hated The Rock, to the point of chanting "Die, Rocky, Die!" at him for years. Now everyone's in romantic love with him. Absolutely nothing changed, aside from people one day got sick of hating him and decided to love him instead. He didn't actually do anything differently to change their opinions, it was like a collective form of mass hysteria. "Didn't you hate this guy just yesterday?" "Yeah, but... I'unno."

People are f*ckin' weird.

Hoping the same can be said for his cousin, Roman Reigns.

They didnt get Eddie's hait right. Je needs bleach blonde hair and clean shaven for the sequel.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

The way it seemed to me is that everyone was absolutely ready to hate the film, until it actually came out and turned out to be better than they expected.

I haven't seen the film, but speaking on a general consensus, that's the vibe I got. I haven't heard any group clamoring that it's great. While it's making a ton of money, I assume that's from the casual audience, who weren't really chiming in with educated opinions on the subject anyway.

I have a feeling I won't like it. But what do I know? I love BvS and can't sit through Guardians of the Galaxy.

You and I suddenly have much to discuss.

[neatoman]

So I just realised something, outside of Disney's money making machine called the MCU, the two most successful movies based on Marvel characters are Spider-Man 3 and Venom.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So I just realised something, outside of Disney's money making machine called the MCU, the two most successful movies based on Marvel characters are Spider-Man 3 and Venom.

What about films like Deadpool or Logan?

[Leo656]

Perhaps he means adjusted for inflation? Good question.

Although Venom wouldn't be there, in that case. So I'unno.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

What about films like Deadpool or Logan?

Originally Posted by Leo656

Perhaps he means adjusted for inflation? Good question.

Although Venom wouldn't be there, in that case. So I'unno.

I don't know about inflation, just comparing the worldwide box office. Deadpool and Logan are definitely less successful than Venom however.

Without adjusting for inflation, this is how they rank:

1. Spider-Man 3, $890.9 million
2. Venom, $844 million
3. Spider-Man, $821.7 million
4. Spider-Man 2, $783.8 million
5. Deadpool, $783.1 million
6. The Amazing Spider-Man, $757.9 million
7. X-Men: Days of Future Past, $747.9 million
8. Deadpool 2, $734.2 million
9. The Amazing Spider-Man 2, $709 million
10. Logan, $619 million
11. X-Men: Apocalypse, $543.9 million
12. X-Men: The Last Stand, $459.4 million
13. The Wolverine, $414.8 million
14. X2, $407.7 million
15. X-Men Origins: Wolverine, $373.1 million
16. X-Men: First Class, $353.6 million
17. Fantastic Four, $330.6 million
18. X-Men, $296.3 million
19. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, $290 million
20. Hulk, $245.4 million
21. Ghost Rider, $228.7 million
22. Daredevil, $179.2 million
23. FANT4STIC, $168 million
24. Blade II, $155 million
25. Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, $132.6 million
26. Blade, $131.2 million
27. Blade: Trinity, $128.9 million
28. Elektra, $56.7 million
29. The Punisher 2004, $54.7 million
30. Howard the Duck, $38 million
31. Punisher: War Zone, $10.1 million
32. Man-Thing, $1.1 million
33. Captain America 1990, $10,173

The original Punisher isn't on there because I can't find any data. MIB and the sequels aren't because I legitmately don't know who actually owns the rights to the comics. And the Mark Millar based stuff isn't actually tied to Marvel, other than Marvel being the initial publisher.

Not sure about Big Hero Six, it's not part of the MCU but it's still distributed by Disney.

[AquaParade]

It's very interesting. Especially if you want to consider the fact that Spider-Man 3 was also heavily marketed to feature Venom.

I really have to wonder if it's just part of the genius of Todd McFarlane's character designs. Venom is so appealing on a visual level. Simple and elegant, but still over-the-top, stylish, and badass.

Or does Tom Hardy have that big of a fan-base?

Did they spend twice as much on marketing?

Or is the Comic book movie market, as successful as it is, only beginning to grow, and can we therefor expect Venom 2, Morbius, and Into the Spider-Verse to also eclipse past Spider-Man films?

You really have to wonder.

As a major comic book and comic book movie fan, who has seen every Spider-Man movie in theaters, I couldn't drag myself to go see this. Starting to look like I was alone in that.

- Quick, melodramatic, aside: a year or two ago, I would have seen this in theaters, due to my piqued curiosity, despite terrible critical reception. Once BvS was panned and I ended up loving it, I thought "hey, you really just gotta decide for yourself. 'One man's trash is another man's treasure, yada, yada.."

Then came Suicide Squad and Justice League. Two films I was still wagging my tail to see on opening week, despite the harsh critical blow that had been dealt to them, by us, the fan community. Two films that were so bad, I couldn't believe it at first. Two films that made me realize the Schumacher-Batman films weren't really all that long ago.

Ever since, I've been very skeptical of any comic book film that receives a good spankin from the critics. Hope I don't miss anything good on account of that.

[MikeandRaph87]

Venom is hitting DVD and Blu-Ray ahead of Christmas after its unexpected success and will be available on December 18th.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.denof...bonus-features

[The Deadman]

[The Deadman]

Kelly Marcel Returns to Write ‘Venom’ Sequel That Might Need a New Director
https://bloody-disgusting.com/comics...-new-director/

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

Kelly Marcel Returns to Write ‘Venom’ Sequel That Might Need a New Director
https://bloody-disgusting.com/comics...-new-director/

From the writer of Venom, 50 Shades of Grey, and Terra Nova. My my, what a pedigree.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by The Deadman

Kelly Marcel Returns to Write ‘Venom’ Sequel That Might Need a New Director
https://bloody-disgusting.com/comics...-new-director/

Originally Posted by Krutch

From the writer of Venom, 50 Shades of Grey, and Terra Nova. My my, what a pedigree.

Is it sexist of me to think some of the creative descisions in Venom suddenly make more sense when you know a woman had a hand in the script?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Is it sexist of me to think some of the creative descisions in Venom suddenly make more sense when you know a woman had a hand in the script?

It makes a couple of things make a lot of sense in my head. But it could just as easily have been as a result of sticky notes from "upstairs."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Watched it last night.

I enjoyed it a lot more than I was expecting. Apparently, Tom Hardy covereth a multitude of sins.

[Andrew NDB]

Feige straight up says Sony can use Spider-Man in Venom movies if they want to:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/feige-on...eadpool-keanu/