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Old 09-19-2017, 06:23 AM   #1
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Will this series ever see a nostalgic resurgence?

The 4Kids show premiered almost fifteen years ago. With the important role that nostalgia plays in many prominent media franchises, when do you think TMNT fans and casuals/regular people will start looking back fondly at the 2003 series on a more collective level?
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:29 AM   #2
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I don't see it happening at all.
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:46 AM   #3
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Yeah, unfortunately I think the Nick show has thoroughly overshadowed it.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:09 AM   #4
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Yeah, unfortunately I think the Nick show has thoroughly overshadowed it.
Not sure if that's actually true or if people just paying more attention to it because it's technically not over yet. Season 1 was indeed a bit of a ratings darling but it was mostly mediocre mediocre ratings since then and it got so bad midway through season 5 they decided to dump the rest on Nicktoons, where it can't be expected to even get a quarter of the ratings. I don't even see much attention online outside of here.

Just watch, in a couple of months the Nick section here is going to be brought to a crawl, just like the PD section.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:17 AM   #5
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Yeah, unfortunately I think the Nick show has thoroughly overshadowed it.
That's TPTB's hope and intent, I'm sure.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:31 AM   #6
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That's TPTB's hope and intent, I'm sure.
I'm sure about that either but it does seem confusing how they treat the show. They gave it marathon but no regular airings, the show is available digitally but is missing 4 seasons and then there's the DVDs...

They're not even quarter-assing it but it's not exactly buried either...
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:53 AM   #7
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I believe people will start appreciating the 2k3 show alot more when Rise of the Tmnt starts airing.

I can see it having more of a nostalgic following than the Nick show in the distant future though.
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Do we know if it's streaming anywhere?
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:02 AM   #9
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Amazon has certain seasons; maybe iTunes as well.
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Do we know if it's streaming anywhere?
The first three seasons can be bought on Amazon digitally. I guess that's the best official option.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/deta..._season_select
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:22 AM   #11
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I never saw it on tv, only binge watched it online a few years ago. But truth be told, though I rarely post in this section, I actually really wish a new series would pick up where this one left off and bring back the designs similar/same as it had for most seasons.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:27 AM   #12
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No, 4Kids is never gonna "resurge."

But mark my words, after a few years and this "Rise of the Turtles" cartoon, nobody is going to remember the Nick cartoon, either.

But everyone will continue to remember the Fred Wolf cartoon... because that's how this works.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:48 AM   #13
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Yes it will, and tons of 4kids elements and characters like Hun and Bishop have already continued into other series and canons.
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Yes it will, and tons of 4kids elements and characters like Hun and Bishop have already continued into other series and canons.
Elements being reused is a far cry from public/popular resurgence, homeboy.
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But everyone will continue to remember the Fred Wolf cartoon... because that's how this works.
It's the TMNT equivalent of Adam West Batman...
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:29 PM   #16
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It's the TMNT equivalent of Adam West Batman...
Without there ever being a Tim Burton coming out of left field in film and a Frank Miller in comics it'd still be that way.
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Old 09-19-2017, 12:55 PM   #17
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It's the TMNT equivalent of Adam West Batman...
I do NOT understand why people say that. The TMNT equivalent of the Adam West Batman series is the Next Mutation series. When it comes to Batman, the closest thing to the original TMNT cartoon is this:
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I do NOT understand why people say that. The TMNT equivalent of the Adam West Batman series is the Next Mutation series. When it comes to Batman, the closest thing to the original TMNT cartoon is this:
Because prior to the Burton movie if you asked the average someone about Batman they'd have thought you were talking about the West show...and not the comic.

Much the same way most people think of the FW toon, rather than the Mirage book.
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I do NOT understand why people say that. The TMNT equivalent of the Adam West Batman series is the Next Mutation series.
Not remotely. Most people weren't even aware it ever existed. NT:TNM was never "The real TMNT" to anyone, ever.

Fred Wolf? Pervasive as hell.
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Any long running franchise always has it's first incarnation, or whichever was the most popular, overshadow everything that came after.

It's the same thing in the Pokemon fandom, with a bunch of delusionals who still think Misty/Brock or the original 151 pokemon are the only things that matter...even though the Pokemon franchise is now 20 years old and we're on gen 7. Just look at all the casuals getting excited over Misty/Brock getting a cameo in the current anime.

It's the same thing TMNT fans do when we have those 80's crossovers in the Nick cartoon or back in Turtles Forever. Or how hyped everyone is to see a new incarnation of Bebop and Rocksteady.
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