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Old 08-08-2020, 04:20 PM   #81
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I already know a few people who are actively hoping that we never go back to "normal" because they never liked going out and dealing with people in the first place, and they're enjoying not being pressured by society to do so.

I'm not in love with that idea myself, but I know a lot of people would be perfectly fine never leaving their house again. I just kinda feel like that's no way to live. And I barely even really like people, I just think being antisocial isn't fun.
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Old 08-09-2020, 12:57 AM   #82
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For businesses that work on computers all day, I do think "work from home" will be a lot more common from here on out. I mean if all you do is sit in an office on a computer all day, you can literally do the same work from home, and you have e-mails/phones/zoom meetings with your co-workers at home anyway if your supervisor/co-workers needs you to do something.

Obviously for other type of service jobs this is impossible, but for people who work in places like business offices on computers all day? Work from home is probably going to become a lot more common.
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Old 08-09-2020, 02:10 AM   #83
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I mean, it makes sense, and there's a definite logic to it.

I kinda wish I had a skillset that would allow me to get a work-from-home job. For most of the last ten years, I worked at a place that was 20 minutes away from home, and I spent an absolute fortune on gas and car repairs. Ran like three cars into the ground just going to work every day. The past year, it was only ten minutes away, so that was better. But now that I only go out to go shopping once a week or every two, I'm saving literally hundreds of dollars that I just never had before. You don't even realize you're spending almost $400 a month on putting gas in your car, until you just stop going anywhere. I put like $20 a month in the tank, now. So I'm actually saving a lot of money I'd have no choice but to spend if I were working.

...And blowing it on f*cking toys because YOLO BABY! But seriously, once I go back to work I'm gonna have to spend money on gas and car repairs again, so might as well take advantage of the situation in the meantime, right?

But yeah, I think the attitudes toward "work from home" are going to shift greatly going forward. Like you said, the capacity to physically do it has been around for a long time now, and there's a lot of ways it can be more efficient. Eliminating commutes, cutting down on pollution, letting workers keep more of the money they'd otherwise spend commuting, etc. etc.

The only reason it's ever been an issue, is that bosses don't want to pay people for "doing nothing", and if you're out of sight they can't check up on you to make sure you're not scratching your ass on their nickel. They absolutely don't want to pay anyone a lot of money to stay at home watching porn and Netflix in between doing 15 minutes of actual work during their "8 hour shift", which let's be honest, is exactly what happens. So I can totally understand why most bosses insist on people coming to work at a place they can be watched, even if it's inefficient and unnecessary.

I do think that's gonna change, though. For one thing, as the younger generation raised on technology and the internet moves up and start to become bosses, attitudes in general have become more relaxed. They're generally less obsessed with "cracking the whip" and making sure that you're hustling for every last second of your work shift, and simply concerned with the job getting done in a satisfactory manner. That's been a growing trend for at least the last ten years.

I do see the possibility of employers insisting on paying a lower salary for these jobs, though, or at least trying to. If I were a boss, I'd definitely pull that sh*t. "You don't need to commute, so since your travel expenses are $0 per week, I've decided that you can live on $500 less a month than I was paying you before. And also, I don't know for a fact that you're actually working, so I figure, if I'm being very generous and assuming that you're working for about four hours out of every eight - and let's be honest, that is a VERY generous assumption, and I know that because I'm not a complete idiot - then I should only pay you for four hour shifts instead of eight."

Maybe they won't get away with it, but let's be real, they'd be stupid not to try.
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:21 AM   #84
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I think with this quarrantine going on...I'm going to be hesitant to fully return to going out again. I've always been a bit of a homebody. I started going to church and everything...but since things have reverted to being online, I hadn't really paid much attention or interacted as much...so I'm falling back into my old bad habits of sitting around the house. I was actually enjoying interacting with the people at the church on Sundays and interacting with people for the Tuesday night community dinner. I feel more comfortable in settings like the latter, though.

Like Leo655, I don't have a skill set that would allow me to work from home, unless I started my own childcare center or run a childcare service out of my home and that's not happening. I wouldn't want that responsibility and it would take a lot to get licensed. The house isn't big enough, imo, to try to have my own childcare set up. I work with babies and toddlers, so yeah....can't work from home doing that.

My mother works from home, but she'd been doing that on and off for years. She's been at her company since 1995 and she's a good, diligent worker so she has the freedom to choose to work from home. When she had to take care of my grandmother, she was allowed to work from home when necessary. With my father now and his dialysis stuff, she was working home a couple of days a week because my mother didn't like the idea of always working from home. It also wasn't a big deal since I was back home now. When the pandemic stuff started, since she's in her 60s, they allowed her to work from home and now she likes it because she gets more done around the house. She takes her breaks when she wants, too. She likes that flexibility and on Tuesdays and Thursdays, she gets out of the house by taking dad to dialysis and she also does grocery shopping sometimes on those days. So for her, it's a good balance and likes being at home. She just hopes nothing ever goes wrong with our internet or her computer.
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