UK likely to leave EU

[Vicky82]

Oh god!!!!!! Boris Johnson is the new Foreign Secretary!!!!!!!! please be a bad dream.

[ZariusTwo]

Theresa May has confirmed Article 50 will be triggered toward the end of March 2017

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37532364

In addition, she also confirmed that she will pass a bill abolishing the European Communities act of 1972 from the statue book, as part of her bid to make Britain independent and sovereign.

The Queen's Speech this Christmas will make reference to this bill as part of a larger "great repeal bill" that will enshrine all existing EU laws into British law.

[ZariusTwo]

Looks like Brexit has a chance of being blocked after all. The High Court has ruled Article 50 cannot be triggered without the backing of Parliament


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37857785

[Prowler]

And they're leaving for real: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39325561

Oh well, they've never liked the European Union, anyway. I mean if I had won a World War and the French and the Germans became the centre pieces of European politics after it I'd be pissed too, so I can't really blame them for it.

What would be more concerning would be if Le Pen won the French presidentials and France left the EU... there is no EU without France+Germany.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Prowler

And they're leaving for real: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39325561

Oh well, they've never liked the European Union, anyway. I mean if I had won a World War and the French and the Germans became the centre pieces of European politics after it I'd be pissed too, so I can't really blame them for it.

What would be more concerning would be if Le Pen won the French presidentials and France left the EU... there is no EU without France+Germany.

I thought the UK didn't like the EU bc other countries were devaluing the value of the Euro example:Greace bc Uk's pound would be worth more than the Euro.
Essentially the Uk economy was being drug down by weaker economical countries in the union. Thats how I understood it.
I didn't think it had anything to do with Germany, France or WWII

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

I thought the UK didn't like the EU bc other countries were devaluing the value of the Euro example:Greace bc Uk's pound would be worth more than the Euro.
Essentially the Uk economy was being drug down by weaker economical countries in the union. Thats how I understood it.
I didn't think it had anything to do with Germany, France or WWII

That is a part of it. Great Britain also has a history of independence. If I am not mistaken it was the first territory to become independent from the Roman Empire then much later gained right through creating Parliament in 1215 and was the first country to fully move away from Catholicism then the eventual removal of monarchy power between William and Mary and Victoria due in part to the English Civil War. Not to mention its territories having that same independent spirit birthing the American Revolution and calls for peace from both Gandhi and Mandela.

[Utrommaniac]

- First to leave Roman Empire
- Makes own Empire, which the world is still recovering from the collapse of.

[ProactiveMan]

To be fair there was a long gap between those events. Plus, I would add...

-Leaves Roman Empire
-Starts own empire
-WWII
-Borrows buttload of money from USA
-Owes buttload of money to USA
-Dismantles empire at behest of USA
-USA starts own empire

[Vicky82]

Here we go, Theresa May has called a General Election for June 8th

[Mayhem]

No, she hasn't. She's stated her desire to call one. She can't call it unless she has support from 2/3 of all MPs. Which means over 100 MPs from non-Tory parties have to support it. But I suspect she'll get it anyhow.

[Andrew NDB]

Just in:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1R2124

I don't really have an informed opinion about this as I don't really understand the sides but... basically the people in the UK voted to leave the EU, the "other side" didn't like that... and so the other side basically caused a lot of delays and this or that, finally culminating in them forcing a second vote because they didn't like the way it went the first time? Is this about right?

Because that sounds really horrible to me. Am I missing something here?

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Just in:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1R2124

I don't really have an informed opinion about this as I don't really understand the sides but... basically the people in the UK voted to leave the EU, the "other side" didn't like that... and so the other side basically caused a lot of delays and this or that, finally culminating in them forcing a second vote because they didn't like the way it went the first time? Is this about right?

Because that sounds really horrible to me. Am I missing something here?

On the surface, yes. A vote designed to undermine a previous vote seems bad. But there's that whole situation with Ireland and Scotland, as well as the problems negotiatiating new trade deals, etc. This is such a hairy situation that undermining democracy, as horrible as it sounds, might actually be the best option.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Just in:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1R2124

I don't really have an informed opinion about this as I don't really understand the sides but... basically the people in the UK voted to leave the EU, the "other side" didn't like that... and so the other side basically caused a lot of delays and this or that, finally culminating in them forcing a second vote because they didn't like the way it went the first time? Is this about right?

Because that sounds really horrible to me. Am I missing something here?

Sounds like partisan politics to me!

[newfan]

Country is an embarrassment right now. Going to burry my head here until an actual decision is made.

[Prowler]

Really tired of hearing about this whole Brexit thing tbh. I thought they decided to leave already? How could they go back in their decision now? Honest question. I dunno how this works.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by newfan

Going to burry my head here until an actual decision is made.

You mean... again?

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Just in:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1R2124

I don't really have an informed opinion about this as I don't really understand the sides but... basically the people in the UK voted to leave the EU, the "other side" didn't like that... and so the other side basically caused a lot of delays and this or that, finally culminating in them forcing a second vote because they didn't like the way it went the first time? Is this about right?

Because that sounds really horrible to me. Am I missing something here?

AFAIK, May has negotiated that UK will formally leave EU, but EU will still control all of its key decisions. So, naturally some people in the government don't like it and want to leave EU completely.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Sumac

AFAIK, May has negotiated that UK will formally leave EU, but EU will still control all of its key decisions. So, naturally some people in the government don't like it and want to leave EU completely.

Then what does it mean exactly? What "rights" and "duties" will the UK lose by leaving the EU, then?

[ZariusTwo]

May's Withdrawal deal has been rejected three times in total

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47752017

[neatoman]