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Old 04-23-2018, 08:31 PM   #201
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I watched the leaked trailer and it looks pretty good, I'm impressed actually. I do think if they make it with 0 spider-man references it'll be annoying but so far so good.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:57 PM   #202
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Just watched the full leaked trailer.

It's what I expected, to be honest. I think it'll be a fun elseworlds tale.

I expected full well going into the making of this movie that it wasn't going to have any ties to Spider-Man so I knew from day 1 I shouldn't be judging this off how well it's adapting it's source material. Doesn't mean it can't be a fun movie that addresses the same themes of dual personalities though.
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Old 04-23-2018, 09:13 PM   #203
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:01 PM   #204
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Official trailer.

Interesting that there's multiple symbiotes...

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Old 04-23-2018, 10:26 PM   #205
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Old 04-23-2018, 10:35 PM   #206
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Official trailer.

Interesting that there's multiple symbiotes...


Hmm, I noticed it too. Could the chick be Shriek? Might see Carnage, too. Could be interesting.
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Old 04-23-2018, 11:18 PM   #207
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Imagine how awesome it would be if Sony actually had gotten their sh-t together and made an awesome Spidey Universe? Besides X-Men it's one of the few heroes that has a large enough world that they could have various movies for their characters, maybe it's not too late and that Black Cat/Silver Sable movie also surprises and when they get Spidey back from their Marvel deal they make something cool.

I grew up with 90s Spider-Man so I think Venom might be my favorite Marvel character, while he's still popular today I don't think kids these days realize how big he was in the 90s. It took me a while for me to warm up to other spider-man villains since no one could match the awesomeness of Venom.
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Old 04-24-2018, 12:01 AM   #208
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I'll give the trailer credit on one thing: That's a much better looking Venom than Raimi version.

Still think it's silly to make a Venom movie without Spider-Man's involvement.
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:26 AM   #209
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That's not Hardy's actual voice, is it?

I don't remember him sounding that... way in Mad Max.
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Old 04-24-2018, 05:37 AM   #210
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I'm getting heavy Ghost Rider vibes from this trailer. Not good.
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Old 04-24-2018, 05:47 AM   #211
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I’m liking the trailer. The title says “Tom Hardy’s superhero movie”...

So Venom’s a hero now? Please don’t turn into crap like Maleficent....
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The lack of Marvel/Disney is concerning, I thought they would be involved no matter how little. Guess he won’t be in MCU.
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:04 AM   #212
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So Venom’s a hero now?
Venom was always an anti-hero, his thing was about injustice. His creator actually had him make peace with Spidey back in the 90s before comic writers kept deciding to forget about that bit.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:52 AM   #213
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Heyo, not bad.

Tony Todd's voice, me thinks.

But I'm still 100% sure that's 10% of the entire Venom screentime.

And I still think this is a terrible idea, Venom without Spiderman. But my interest has been piqued. And I love me some Tom Hardy.

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Old 04-24-2018, 10:21 AM   #214
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I like just about everything, but I just can't take the Venom Symbiote seriously.
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Old 04-24-2018, 10:22 AM   #215
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It's what I expected, to be honest. I think it'll be a fun elseworlds tale.
Eh, that's kind of the vibe I'm getting. At best.

Something about that trailer seems really off to me but I can't put my finger on it.
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I like just about everything, but I just can't take the Venom Symbiote seriously.
Why not? Just too 90's?
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I dunno. I just can't quite get behind such a drastic change to his origin. What happened to Brock "inheriting" the symbiote from Peter? The whole reason it has the look and abilities it does is because it attempted to bond with Spidey FIRST. Without that element, there is LITERALLY NO REASON for it to havce that specific appearance and the "web" imitation ability that Venom is known for. How are they going to explain that? I'm just feeling like he qill be Venom in name only, even if it IS still Brock. No vendetta against Peter, no history tying him to what made him Venom to begin with, it's just- It's like PD changing the origin of the turtles by taking Yoshi out of the picture. It just doesn't work to me. (And yeah, much as I enjoyed those movies, that part bothered me.)
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Why not? Just too 90's?
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I dunno. I just can't quite get behind such a drastic change to his origin. What happened to Brock "inheriting" the symbiote from Peter? The whole reason it has the look and abilities it does is because it attempted to bond with Spidey FIRST. Without that element, there is LITERALLY NO REASON for it to havce that specific appearance and the "web" imitation ability that Venom is known for. How are they going to explain that? I'm just feeling like he qill be Venom in name only, even if it IS still Brock. No vendetta against Peter, no history tying him to what made him Venom to begin with, it's just- It's like PD changing the origin of the turtles by taking Yoshi out of the picture. It just doesn't work to me. (And yeah, much as I enjoyed those movies, that part bothered me.)
Yeah, I was curious about this...
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Old 04-24-2018, 01:27 PM   #219
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If a black man or a woman had been Eddie Brock, Plastron would be all over it and we all know it.


Talking about black men venom, maybe if this movie is a success Spawn's movie will finally come out after 15+ years of pre-production! And not the "Spawn will only appear in shadows" version.
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I love how Brock uses webs even when Spider-Man is not part of the picture. Also yes, in the comics, Brock is an anti-hero and all that.... but that was AFTER he got over his deal with Spider-Man. You can't just skip his origins and original motivations.

Honestly, this doesn't fit with the MCU. I mean, their Spidey is way too young to deal with this incarnation of Venom. He'd be destroyed. And yes, I understand that Spidey is facing Thanos, but he has a fifth of the MCU backing him, it's not one on one. Maybe Andrew Garfield's version.

The trailer also shows way too much Eddie Brock with some black webbing powers. Too much origin build up and Eddie dealing with hearing voices and whatnot. I'm getting the idea we're not seeing full Venom until the last 10 minutes or so of the movie.

Venom looks aight. I mean he looks better than the Topher Grace version, but is that really saying much? Is he gonna just be solid black all over since he has no reason to have a giant Spider-Man logo all over himself? That's like Punisher without the skull, or Spider-Man without the spider.
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