Official Justice League Movie

[ProphetofGanja]

Probably spent a lot on marketing, too

[Papenbrook]

If this movie fails, you can all blame Warner Bros. for this trainwreck.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I wonder how much money it took to CGI edit Henry Cavills upper lip

[myconius]

i did enjoy the Justice League movie for what it is.

but i truly wish they would have just set up a solid plan to follow Grant Morrison's run on JLA from the get go.

what we got was a Dark Knight Returns mash-up with Superman: Doomsday and New52 Justice League Origin.

[Spike Spiegel]

Only in the wacky world of Hollywood is $96 million over the course of a few days an underachievement.

And yes, I understand the relationships between budget and box office returns and profit, etc. It's all just kind of absurd when you stop to really think about it.

Maybe it'll do well on home video.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel

Only in the wacky world of Hollywood is $96 million over the course of a few days an underachievement.

And yes, I understand the relationships between budget and box office returns and profit, etc. It's all just kind of absurd when you stop to really think about it.

Maybe it'll do well on home video.

Not really..... I mean, if you spent a thousand bucks on something and only got like... 350 back for it, yeah, for some people that 350 sounds pretty sweet.... but you lost a lot of money to earn that. 96 Million is nothing if the thing cost over 300 million to make.

[myconius]

as much as people would like to slam the gavel down and declare judgment, the race isn't finished yet.

i can definitely see where i lot of people were disappointed. i have a BUNCH of things i can complain about with this movie.
but there are things i still did really enjoy about it.

i'd definitely buy the home release because i really want to see if there is some sort of extended cut or deleted scenes.

[oldmanwinters]

Justice League: Legion of Doomed???

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Justice League: Legion of Doomed???

Y'see, that's what they should gone with. Even though you can't say Marvel owns the invasion plot, we've seen so many movies about alien invasion after all.... did the Justice League have to copy the same 'invasion from another world' plot form the Avengers movie? Honestly, had the villains had been the Legion of Doom instead, maybe organized by Lex while in prison or whatever, the movie would have played completely different and there would have been no way to compare it to Avengers. Honestly seeing the guys mix it up with Bane, Bizzaro, Grundy, Cheetah, Captain Cold, Black Manta and um... someone for Cyborg, would have been way more exciting than Steppenwolf and his army.

Hell, Marvel hasn't done the 'supervillain team up' thing yet, especially since most of them die at the end of their movies. DC could have beat them to the punch, but they just played it safe and cut and pasted a storyline already used by the competitors.

[myconius]

the movie plot was mostly a re-hash of the New 52 'Justice League: Origin'.



with some different plot threads tossed in, and swap Darkseid out for Steppenwolf.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by myconius

the movie plot was mostly a re-hash of the New 52 'Justice League: Origin'.

http://www.dccomics.com/sites/defaul...1.74478718.jpg

with some different plot threads tossed in, and swap Darkseid out for Steppenwolf.

So if I've seen "Justice League: War," I'm pretty much good on the basic plot, eh?

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Y'see, that's what they should gone with. Even though you can't say Marvel owns the invasion plot, we've seen so many movies about alien invasion after all.... did the Justice League have to copy the same 'invasion from another world' plot form the Avengers movie? Honestly, had the villains had been the Legion of Doom instead, maybe organized by Lex while in prison or whatever, the movie would have played completely different and there would have been no way to compare it to Avengers. Honestly seeing the guys mix it up with Bane, Bizzaro, Grundy, Cheetah, Captain Cold, Black Manta and um... someone for Cyborg, would have been way more exciting than Steppenwolf and his army.

Hell, Marvel hasn't done the 'supervillain team up' thing yet, especially since most of them die at the end of their movies. DC could have beat them to the punch, but they just played it safe and cut and pasted a storyline already used by the competitors.

I've long thought the rogues gallery was the most interesting part of the DC Universe. Batman's villains alone are far better than anything Marvel has to offer, and it's far more amusing to watch the Legion of Doom or Injustice Guild try to work together than say... the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants or the Sinister Six.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by myconius

the movie plot was mostly a re-hash of the New 52 'Justice League: Origin'.

http://www.dccomics.com/sites/defaul...1.74478718.jpg

with some different plot threads tossed in, and swap Darkseid out for Steppenwolf.

In other words, 100% Geoff Johns, then. That muther****er. As much in love with old stories as Snyder was, I wonder where he got the idea with for his JL duology, then... when that Geoff Johns story is only like 3 years old.

Just like with the GL movie (in which he was heavily involved and held full creative veto power), though, he has so many angles and people to hide behind. "It was Snyder's fault!" or "I tried to help Whedon but by then I could only help so much!"

[myconius]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

So if I've seen "Justice League: War," I'm pretty much good on the basic plot, eh?

it borrowed ideas from Justice League Origin, but not exactly.
there were still plenty of different plot threads, just as there were many differences in JL: Origin vs JL: War.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

In other words, 100% Geoff Johns, then. That muther****er. As much in love with old stories as Snyder was, I wonder where he got the idea with for his JL duology, then... when that Geoff Johns story is only like 3 years old.

Just like with the GL movie (in which he was heavily involved and held full creative veto power), though, he has so many angles and people to hide behind. "It was Snyder's fault!" or "I tried to help Whedon but by then I could only help so much!"

the overall vibe of this movie felt so much of the same theme as the New 52 JL that Geoff Johns did.
the Team coming together, yet still acting like a bunch of jerks towards one another, Batman getting constantly getting punked our on, Cyborg's New 52 origin added in as well as making him instrumental to the plot . . .
they even threw in the scene one member embarrasses himself talking while accidentally touching Wonder Woman's lasso of truth. except it was Aquaman instead of Hal Jordan.

even though the scenes are very different, both Justice League (film) and Justice League: Origin start out with Batman encountering a Para-demon on the rooftops of Gotham.
there are nods to the New52 story all over the place.

the whole time i was watching the movie i kept wishing they'd gone with a storyline like 'JLA: New World Order'.

[NinjaPug]

Actual box office ends up $2 million lower than what WB was forecasting yesterday($94 million vs $96 million). Word of mouth is obviously not great on this and the lower numbers from Sunday is probably not a great sign for JL's long term box office success.

[Katie]

I’ve seen lots of reports that even though the RT score is low and whatnot, that the audience review scores are only slightly lower than Thor....like in the mid 80ish% favorable.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Yikes ... $2 million lower? What a sh*t show this turned out to be. Some people at WB are for sure losing their positions for this.

[Andrew NDB]

Now that we're seeing JL is not even fiscally going to be a success... what do you guys think WB is going to do, being how overly reactionary they are to anything?

It's such an interesting dilemma. WW is a big money-maker and well-loved, yet anchored to this DCEU they're probably going to want to distance themselves away from after this. They've got Aquaman coming out on the horizon (it's the ONLY DC movie coming out in 2018 ), also anchored to the DCEU. Shazam! filming soon... will they make its place in the DCEU more nebulous? What the **** is going to happen with "The Batman" now? Man of Steel 2? Surely they won't attempt a JL 2. Will they pressure Jenkins into making WW 2 spin off some kind of WW shared universe, instead?

[Sumac]

Rumor has it, that everything now depends on success of Aquaman.
If it succeeds, then James Wan will receive rein of DCCU. Otherwise, it will be bunch of solo movies.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Given DC's track record much rather have a bunch of solo films with the occasional teamup rather than a boring, forced overarching narrative.

[sdp]

If they get rid of Affleck then I'm done with DC movies until this DCEU is over.

So is somehow the Monsterverse with Godzilla the one that has so far made the best (modern)shared universe after marvel? Wow. Bet no one saw that coming.