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These guys just f*ck up so much so often, and have been caught in so many lies and other nonsense - not "misdirection to build excitement" but plain flat-out LIES - that it's amazing anyone actually wants these f*ckwits in charge of these movies. I'm already baffled that some people like the approach, and defend the approach... but to insist that what they're doing is RIGHT, that they even have a CLUE how to handle this franchise, how to make these movies, when it's been proven time and time again that no, they DON'T have any idea what they're doing... it's baffling. It makes NO SENSE that people like and want more of this kind of thing. It goes beyond the bad casting and the bad designs into just plain unabashed "We Totally Do Not Give One Sh*t, Just Please Buy These Toys". And people want more of it. It's unfathomable. Ra's al Ghul was right; society really is too sick to survive. Quote:
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Y e a h, the tone was the only problem. Not the hideous character designs or the piss-poor dialog or the awful and fake-looking CGI or the ridiculous and shoddy new origin story or the villains' plans not making any sense or the fact there are giant snow peaks right outside NYC or making April the Most Important Person In The Universe or...
Yeah, no, it was all the "tone". That was the only problem. If I weren't so sure you were being paid to be here, I'd have a hard time believing anyone could be so dismissive of that pile of Very Real Problems that movie had.
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I'm not saying there weren't issues with the movie and how it was made but little to none of those issues are in effect this time around. Are any of those same issue from the first movie even been talked about In regards to this movie? Nothing concrete, speculation sure. But there are no blaring issues with this movie that there where with the last.
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Funny. We must have watched different trailers.
I still see hideous designs. I still hear absolutely awful dialog. I still see horrible CGI. I still see some absolutely pathetic miscasting. I still see far too many non-Turtle characters fighting for time in a movie where the TMNT are the Title characters. It all looks equally sh*tty as last time, just from a different direction. None of it looks "better", just stupid from another angle. No, they knew then, and know now, what kind of movie they want to make: Stupid. They're making a stupid movie, on purpose, just like last time. Stupid Sells. People like you are apparently fine with Stupid, so Stupid is what they're going with. Fine. I'm not going to thank them for it and ask for more of the same. There's like 80 movies coming out this year that show how an adaptation should be properly done. TMNT fans, meanwhile, are so used to having to choose between Trash and Nothing, they'll gladly settle for trash just so "their brand" gets represented. It's ridiculous. When there are so many movies coming out that get it Right, I can't in any way ignore - or worse, APPLAUD - these idiots on how badly they're getting TMNT wrong.
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I'm Not saying I won't love those movies I will and I am excited for just about all of them. But to act as if these other movies are these holy perfect adaptation is just ********. And so every person who happened to like this version or that version, that you personally think is trash is below you. Just some stupid people ruining your franchise. Because People can't honestly enjoy the versions in which you dislike because they are "trash". I've said it before I can appreciate and enjoy every version of the turtles or any other franchise I like because I'm open to it. But no I'm just some naive stupid person, who has no standards. Smh in the end it's all subjective. There are those who can't enjoy anything then there are those who can. I happen to be the latter.
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Oh, god, the "every version of TMNT is stupid, thus this one being stupid is acceptable" argument. No, you're wrong.
Fox and Amell don't belong anywhere near this movie, yet they're not only both horribly miscast, they're again going to be the stars of the movie. The "Ninja Turtles" movie. Starring Green Arrow the corrections officer who drives a f*cking sports car, who calls himself "Casey Jones" despite not being anything at all like Casey Jones. I know you were being sarcastic, dude, but no, there IS something wrong with the people who like this version of TMNT. In your own words, "You'll accept anything". That's the problem. It's not always "Subjective". Some things are just BAD, and if you accept bad things, you get more bad things. Some of us want good things. Deal with it. Being a "Brand Loyalist" is the single worst kind of "fan" a person can be. "No standards or taste". Yes, exactly. I know you were trying to be sarcastic but that IS entirely the problem, people with no standards or taste being allowed to dictate what direction the franchise goes in, and how the brand gets represented. "Any version is better than no version." No. Wrong. Dead f*cking wrong.
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I just can't understand how anyone can think a sequel made by 95% the same people can be considered a total "do-over". It's building on top of the garbage foundation of the first one, is made by the same producers, written by the same writers, with the same characters, the same world, the same designs, the same most things. It can be technically "better" than the last one, but expecting it to be "good" is something else entirely. The idea that people who hated the first movie should give them a free pass on this one is insanity.
I'll just never understand why so many people are giving this movie a free pass because... what, they put Bebop and Rocksteady in it? I can't be that easily impressed. Everything about this production points to the same conclusion as the first -- they're 100% making this to cash in on a brand and sell toys, that's it. There's no real care for the property, no desire to tell a real story with real characters. If they wanted to really try, dig into the source material and do their due diligence, there's a truly great trilogy's worth of material they could do justice. They could make good films if they wanted to. But they don't. They're following the usual Bay franchise formula -- frame the movie around some big CGI action set-pieces, then fill in the gaps with basically anything and pretend it's a "plot". They could make a movie that appeals to kids and adults if they wanted to, but that would mean spending time and attention on crafting a tight script that brings the fun but also has something of some substance to say... which isn't a priority for Platinum Dunes. But they also don't want to make a "kids' movie" outright and turn off the teenagers and adult teenagers, so they throw some ass shots and/or scantily-clad women in there for good measure, maybe a boner joke or two, and the 13-year-olds (and those with similar tastes) will throw money at them for a couple weeks in the summer. The only thing that's changed is that they know the last movie was hugely divisive, so now they're cramming this full of Fred Wolf fan-service to dazzle the fans into buying more tickets. I hope it doesn't work, but unfortunately it probably will. ...but hey, it's kind of nice seeing BayTurtles' biggest cheerleaders finally admit to at least some of that movie's colossal flaws, even if they're only doing that while they actively market this thing.
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Exactly. Why should people expect anything different from the exact same set of writers and producers? The only difference is this script (is there one?) didn't get leaked, a white Shredder wasn't cast and Bay didn't let it drop that the Turtles were aliens to create enough uproar from fans for them to change things on the fly.
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They didn't even change one of the biggest complaints from the first movie....the nostrils!
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