04-27-2017, 03:11 AM | #61 |
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I actually didn't mean like... in the "pet" sense. I mean since I don't own the license, no incarnation is "my" turtles.
It weirds me out when people are like "this isn't my X" when it's like... You don't have X thing. You didn't make it, you don't own the rights.
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04-27-2017, 05:56 AM | #62 |
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i don't have turtles either.
though i did have a dog that used to catch wasps and hornets in his mouth and chew them to death. never got stung either. darnedest thing.
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04-27-2017, 06:26 AM | #63 |
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If Eastman had produced that storyline it would have been a chaotic mess of Raph and his Interchangeable Brothers.
Balance is key. I'm glad we had Volume 2 which was more down to earth and character driven, despite its faults. "My" turtles do kill when necessary but, as in the Mirage comics, they are a bit traumatized from being child soldiers and eventually tone it down. I do have a bit of trouble imagining Mike deliberately killing but the others have shown the capacity. And those nunchaku can kill whether he wants to or not. To me a bo seems more deadly than a sai. Some martial arts expert will have to tell me. |
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I do, and they are definitely killers.
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04-27-2017, 10:29 AM | #65 |
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I'm no expert, but I'd say the bo definitively have the edge over the sai despite it being a metal baton used for blocking, trapping and used as a throwing weapon. The bo got range and crushing power to boot.
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04-27-2017, 10:42 AM | #67 |
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My red-earred sliders are as vicious as my common snapper or alligator snapper. I can throw big fish or rats in there and they'll tear them to shreds (except the tails of rats... they'll just be floating in there), playing tug-of-war with each other over entrails. But the filter will almost right away get gunked up with scales or fur so I don't like to do that too much.
I threw a goldfish in with my razor back musk turtle tank and it lived for like 3, maybe 4 years in there. One day, just gone. In retrospect I'm fairly sure my cat scooped it out and ate it, not the musk turtles.
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04-27-2017, 10:48 AM | #68 |
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Dammit, Hob!
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04-27-2017, 01:27 PM | #70 | |
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I personally don't see the Turtles as killers. The Turtles are very self aware beings, killing someone would affect them too much from a psychological point of view. I prefer the Turtles to stop crime as crimefighters. Killing people doesn't make the Turtles any better than the criminals they fight, yeah that's naive of me but I like to be optimistic when it comes to heroes. It allows us to believe in them. |
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Next thread: Are your Turtles monsters or people?
They sure willingly take up a heroic role if they feel called to serve a greater good on occasion... Though not in a "superhero" way, and I'd rather that term not applied to them. More that they were able to do something to help a situation and chose to, even if they didn't have to get involved. They still quietly live as part of that community, as to some extent they still depend on it (food sources, electricity, running water, shelter, material goods, etc) like everyone else. I'd have no issue with them trying to find a purpose for their lives that makes use of their only skill set after the targets they were raised to go after are removed. If their enemies were gone, they're not regular little pet Turtles that would be content to just sit in a confined space for a lifetime and stare at a wall in the lair. |
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So the question is really just "Do you accept that the turtles are killers?", isn't it? The answer is still the same, they're killers regardless wheter or not someone likes and/or knows about it.
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But they don't patrol the streets every night looking to fight crime and save the day. The closest one is Raph, and that's mostly to look for someone to beat up to let off some steam, but not for the greater good.
The 80's cartoon was kind of a mixed bag. They'd be content just veg out in front of the tv until Shredder does something. The thing is, Shredder always gets away and is a constant threat, and most of the times, HE'S the one causing trouble in the city. If they captured him since day one, they wouldn't be doing much of anything (but then we wouldn't have a show). But then we have other episodes where Splinter says they're slacking and should still go out and beat up other bad guys even though (at the moment) Shredder has been defeated. The Power Rangers have some sort of oath to stop 'insert villain of the series here' and they can't really stop until that bad guy is eventually defeated once and for all. Sonic kinda varies from incarnations. Sometimes he just runs around looking for adventure, not necessarily hoping to fight bad guys, and other times he's part of the last hope resistance in a planet already conquered by Robotnik. I see the Marvel and DC gang as the classic superhero. Always going out looking for crime to stop. Devoting to use their powers for the greater good. Sometimes devoting their entire lives (and ruining their relationships) just to go out and fight some bad guys every day. The Turtles, depending on the version, were trained to kill Shredder, or just to have self defense if they ever ran into trouble. They never once said 'we are superior martial artists and masters of deadly weapons, we must use these teachings to set forth and rid the world of all evil!"
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For the fun of it, I'd love to take the PD Turtles (minus overpowered nonsense, e.g. no "bullet proof" junk) and somehow put them in a crossover film with superheros from the likes of Marvel or DC. (To the resentment of Marvel/DC fans I'm sure, sorry.) And allow these non-super, non-human/not-quite-human Turtles to otherwise still portray a very human element in their efforts to keep up and play an important role in whatever it is that the movie's heroes are trying to defeat. With all their relatable hard work and effort and exhaustion, while the super people have it easy.
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04-28-2017, 04:09 PM | #79 |
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I believe the greatest thing about the Mirage TMNT was that they were raised to kill a guy, and succeed, and then they ponder what to do with the rest of their lives. Rarely does any other comic go into things like that.
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