|
10-17-2016, 06:34 AM | #1 |
Big Blue Boy Scout
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: New Bark Town
Posts: 4,484
|
How would you like a modern anime remake of OT season 1 as a full movie?
After watching some DragonBall Super and Pokemon Generations, I really liked the animation style and I think they could use it to make an animated tmnt movie to rejuvinate public interest in the turtles, how do you think it would work out?
This would be a remaster of the OT pilot season with more focus on character development rather than supporting characters (bye bye, Neutrinos), actions scenes like 2k3, an overall story like that of the OTs first season with changes made such as having a deeper Splinter and Shredder rivalry, all old OT voice actors reprise where possible, have a modern recreation of the old soundtrack and a noticeably more action orinted and darker tone than the OT, while still being enough like the original to be identifiable. Do you think this stand alone movie like this would rejuvinate public interest in the turtles as a property and remind us that there is far more to tmnt than onnoxious CGI monsters? Infact, tmnt started out as a comic and I feel that making it a 2D series once again would not only stick out as a property from the cluster of CGI/Live Action films so prevelant nowdays, but fit better with the source material, allowing for more more similar adaptions to versions such as Mirage, the 1990 film and 2k3 after a stand alone OT remake to potentially light a spark of a new tmnt era. Last edited by FredWolfLeonardo; 10-17-2016 at 07:03 AM. |
10-17-2016, 06:47 AM | #2 |
The Agenda of Existing
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vikingland
Posts: 14,596
|
I don't think neither the Dragon Ball Super or Pokémon Generations art style is fitting TMNT. but, I wouldn't mind a Japanese animation group do a remake crack at season 1 of the Fred Wolf series.
|
10-17-2016, 07:08 AM | #3 |
Mad Scientist
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,715
|
An anime film of the OT would be extremely profitable in Japan, where nostalgia for that show runs high. Get a Japanese production team who grew up on the original to work on it, and a studio like toei or gainax, and you'd have an amazing anime film on your hands. And if an OT anime were released in japan, an American release of such a well known property would be sure to follow.
|
10-17-2016, 08:05 AM | #4 |
Annalist
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 16,435
|
No. No. No. Did I hit ten characters yet? No.
__________________
ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED
|
10-17-2016, 10:47 AM | #5 |
Mad Scientist
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,715
|
I will say, you turn tmnt over to a Japanese production team, give them creative fredom, along with access to all forms of turtle media for research, and you know whet you most likely to get for a movie? Maybe not the OT, but it will have:
-Orgin retelling -Splinter as Yoshi -Rocksteady and bebop -Krang and the Technodrome Yellow jumpsuit April Don't think the Japanese will pander to nostalgia that much? Tell that to the sentai pirate team that turns into past sentai teams via keys, and the kamen rider who becomes past riders via cards. Oh, and how all gundam is now pandering to universal century/0079 fans now. If given tmnt for a movie,Japan will give us an OT remake, but probably a high quality one. |
10-17-2016, 10:52 AM | #6 | |
Annalist
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 16,435
|
Quote:
__________________
ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED
|
|
10-17-2016, 10:53 AM | #7 |
Weed Whacker
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 29,279
|
F*ck and no.
__________________
|
10-17-2016, 11:18 AM | #8 |
Mad Scientist
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,715
|
Yes, I do agree, IDW would be the ideal version to adapt characters and tone from. Have a flashback to feudal japan and Yoshi and his son's execution at the beginning, then reshuffle story and plot Ideas to bring Krang, rocksteady, and bebop into the first film. Change Oroku Saki's name to Sawaki, change Hamato to Hamada, throw in shredder calling krang a 'stupid octopus', take the blood and violence limitations off, and you've got the recipe for an amazing TMNT film there!
__________________
My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket. |
10-17-2016, 03:14 PM | #9 | ||
So tired of this place
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Shell Ri La
Posts: 26,809
|
Quote:
& if you wanna revisit the FW universe, do it in a new & smart way. Make a direct to DVD animated feature out of Turtles In Time for SNES. Quote:
__________________
I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy
|
||
10-17-2016, 08:27 PM | #10 | |
Mad Scientist
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,715
|
Quote:
Also, the darker and gritter TMNT material has a problem in Japan; while the 'martial arts/cycle of vengeance' angle in TMNT is more unique in the U.S., such anime and manga are a dime a dozen in Japan. There are manga out there with the same basic premise with TMNT, but does the whole story and narrative better. They are martial arts mangas that are gritter and have more mature themes, there are martial arts anime and manga that are far more bloody and violent than turtles will ever be. why go for the TMNT when you have Lady Snowblood? More serious TMNT is unique over here, but in the land martial arts fiction was born, TMNT is a very tiny fish playing in a very big an overcrowded pond. And pure gritty TMNT would just come off as a poor American imitation trying to ape the classics.
__________________
My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket. |
|
10-17-2016, 11:52 PM | #11 | |
So tired of this place
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Shell Ri La
Posts: 26,809
|
Quote:
TMNT was huge in Japan during Turtlemania, I'm not arguing that, but a resurgence would not have the same or similar impact, nor would it grant further lasting power. There's no way a western cartoon series is gonna get a modern 'anime' produced in Japan by a huge/prominent studio, let alone an independent one. Do you even know what the otaku market is like these days? Audiences there have become very finicky, & a significant chunk of anime viewers in the 2010's want cookie cutter "moe-blob" shows, which is to say cute girls doing cute things. While there are some action successes each year, a lot of their legacies end up as mere flavor of the month 12 episode manga adaptions that come & go without so much as a second season. Japan isn't really on par with the USA when it comes to the consumption of foreign entertainment. It is an inclusive nation on many levels. Sure there are plenty of western films that get subtitled & released to welcoming excited crowds, but they're a novelty whose spectacle comes more from the higher budgets & quality CGI than it does a genuine appreciation of the source material. They don't get manga & anime made for them, at best they get a collector's toy from Good Smile Company & even then it's just for the most prominent of characters (like Batman & The Joker, for example) because there isn't enough love for the entire property to warrant the cost of producing more extensive lines. 4kids & the Nick series had strong starts & then immediately fell off. That's pretty telling of how the turtles are viewed in general there. They're a memory. Is it a fond enough memory to cash-in on in 2017 for the Japanese public? I doubt it. Sure, Viacom has made commendable efforts pushing the brand there, we've gotten some very cool items from overseas, the bay films had theatrical releases, even The Visual History book & (some) IDW comics were translated, but it's hardly booming. & there you go once again trying to take subtle jabs at Mirage. Classic.
__________________
I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy
|
|
10-18-2016, 12:24 AM | #12 |
Mad Scientist
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,090
|
The first season of the OT pretty much already is an anime movie. It was animated, pretty well, by Toei and it flows more or less end to end just fine. It was even released as a "movie" at least once, wasn't it?
__________________
Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/ |
10-18-2016, 06:22 AM | #13 | |
Mad Scientist
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,715
|
Quote:
My head is not in the clouds, you failed to notice where I said demand for any tmnt media in Japan is low, I was just pointing out if anyone remembers the Tmnt at all, it's usually the OT they remember, not 4kids or any other version. My point on gundam is during the 90's there was an attempt to keep things fresh with new material that paid homage to the original, but was it's own thing- gundam wing, g gundam, etc. But all I hear gundam fans complain about, both American and Japanese, is how they 'pander to U.C. fans now'. Same goes for laymen rider and sentai; decade and gokiager were anniversary seasons, but the fact the latter and their key gimmick keep popping up in team up movies is annoying both U.S. and Japanese fans. My point on that was with a shrinking market of kids in Japan thanks to a low birthrate, toy and anime companies are catering more to nostalgia there than they used to. And again, I never said there was any demand for or nostalgia for tmnt in Japan, I was speaking strictly on what version they are going to remember if asked about it (though there might be a few that remember the film's.) So if say gainax or toei were handed the Tmnt for a Movie or OAV series, and given complete creative freedom, along with translated research materials on tmnt history, we'd still get a version with Krang, Shredder,Rocksteady, bebop, and the technodrome. I've had it with this nonsense. I don't freaking hate mirage, I actually like parts of it. I recognise the OT is goofy and dumb, and I view IDW as my perfect blend of tmnt. This getting old, leave me alone. Last edited by Panda_Kahn_fan; 10-18-2016 at 07:29 AM. |
|
10-17-2016, 11:48 AM | #14 |
Overlord
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 10,155
|
I don't want almost exactly the same story retold over and over again.
|
Tags |
crisler's law |
|
|