TMNT #69 preview & discussion

[ChosenOne]

I put Saki in the "enhanced" category, the ooze clearly gave him a physical edge. Not necessarily super-strength, but at the very least it kept him in prime physical condition for far longer than naturally possible. Enhanced stamina, speed, who knows. He's certainly not a mere human, not by a long shot.

[Utrommaniac]

Originally Posted by neatoman

"Son, the furries found me!"

Spoiler:

Another moment that couldn't be resisted

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Oroku Saki did it all the time. Yes, immortal because ooze but it was never shown or hinted that he had super-strength (unlike Hun).

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

I put Saki in the "enhanced" category, the ooze clearly gave him a physical edge. Not necessarily super-strength, but at the very least it kept him in prime physical condition for far longer than naturally possible. Enhanced stamina, speed, who knows. He's certainly not a mere human, not by a long shot.

I think you're both kinda right. I never understood Saki's 'therapeutic mutagen bath" to alter his physicality, making him capable of more strength than a normal person, but it did definitely do something wacky, since he was able to just hibernate for, like, a hundred years or so? For a while, anyways.

Compared to Hun's mutagen treatment at least, there was very little noticeable outward physical change

[Utrommaniac]

I think it was said to be roughly 200 years.

[Technogeek29]

Man Raph and tranquilizers, is that a new universal constant?

Leonardo stress is a terrible thing, calm yourself big bro.

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

I think it was said to be roughly 200 years.

Besides the fact he will never physically age he is at his prime in terms of strength and intellect. I'm unsure if it gave any inhuman feats? It could just be years of training has made him a force to be reckon with.

[Ninjinister]

So how did Hob track down Daddy B? And it just happened to be on the same day that his son visited him?

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

So how did Hob track down Daddy B? And it just happened to be on the same day that his son visited him?

Mondo got a hold of the HR files, Daddy Bishop was probably listed as a former agent or next of kin to Sonny Bishop. His adress was probably listed there.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Mondo got a hold of the HR files, Daddy Bishop was probably listed as a former agent or next of kin to Sonny Bishop. His adress was probably listed there.

Yeah I missed the panel where he's looking at the files on page 18. It still feels weird to me that he came after Daddy B that soon after his son visited, though.

[Allio]

Originally Posted by myconius

that's one heck of an opinion there

you're not seeing the picture.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Allio

you're not seeing the picture.

i saw the picture....

it wasn't what was being said...

it was the manner in which it was being said.

something along the tone of- "i'm right, and you are wrong"

i'm not against different opinions. but when an opinions are stated as fact-

.....i call shenanigans

[myconius]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

I put Saki in the "enhanced" category, the ooze clearly gave him a physical edge. Not necessarily super-strength, but at the very least it kept him in prime physical condition for far longer than naturally possible. Enhanced stamina, speed, who knows. He's certainly not a mere human, not by a long shot.

i think you have something there.

Saki must have been altered from soaking in Ooze for all of those years.

In the Hun micro-series, Shredder gave him Oooze and told him it would "enhance" him.

it showed Hun shooting up the Ooze almost like steroids in that panel where he says- "i got back in shape".

[Allio]

Originally Posted by myconius

i saw the picture....

it wasn't what was being said...

it was the manner in which it was being said.

something along the tone of- "i'm right, and you are wrong"

i'm not against different opinions. but when an opinions are stated as fact-

.....i call shenanigans

Should have made my joke clearer

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Allio

Should have made my joke clearer

oh! that wasn't like joke?

[CyberCubed]

This issue was nice, but it does seem like this story is going in a different direction than expected with Bishop's father and all. I guess it also confirms this Bishop is a normal human and hasn't lived since the 1850's like his 4kids incarnation. He might still be enchanced somehow with superhuman serum or something, but he didn't live for hundreds of years.

One thing I am disappointed with is Slash is yet another mind controlled ally against the Turtles. They did this so many times before with Dark Leo, then Kitsune controlling Alopex, etc. that seeing yet another mind control plot has gotten repetitive in this series. I was really hoping to see Bishop himself fight the Turtles or the EPF, but I guess that will happen in another story arc.

[DestronMirage22]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

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Guess all good things must come to an end, right?

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This issue was nice, but it does seem like this story is going in a different direction than expected with Bishop's father and all. I guess it also confirms this Bishop is a normal human and hasn't lived since the 1850's like his 4kids incarnation. He might still be enchanced somehow with superhuman serum or something, but he didn't live for hundreds of years.

One thing I am disappointed with is Slash is yet another mind controlled ally against the Turtles. They did this so many times before with Dark Leo, then Kitsune controlling Alopex, etc. that seeing yet another mind control plot has gotten repetitive in this series. I was really hoping to see Bishop himself fight the Turtles or the EPF, but I guess that will happen in another story arc.

Welcome back Cubed, I guess Nines is back too then? This is a relatively nice surprise, normally when I log on here on thursdays I think "Dear god, it's the day the looney bin has internet privileges...".

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Welcome back Cubed, I guess Nines is back too then? This is a relatively nice surprise, normally when I log on here on thursdays I think "Dear god, it's the day the looney bin has internet privileges...".

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This issue was nice, but it does seem like this story is going in a different direction than expected with Bishop's father and all. I guess it also confirms this Bishop is a normal human and hasn't lived since the 1850's like his 4kids incarnation. He might still be enchanced somehow with superhuman serum or something, but he didn't live for hundreds of years.

One thing I am disappointed with is Slash is yet another mind controlled ally against the Turtles. They did this so many times before with Dark Leo, then Kitsune controlling Alopex, etc. that seeing yet another mind control plot has gotten repetitive in this series. I was really hoping to see Bishop himself fight the Turtles or the EPF, but I guess that will happen in another story arc.

I think Bishop is far scarier when he's just a normal human. He's trained hard to be as good as he is. And he's a zealot, a bloodthirsty zealot on a one-man war. No alien encounter driving his hatred and xenophobia, just blind hatred.

[DrSpengler]

Here's my full summary and review of TMNT #69 at TMNT Entity.

While I think Old Man Bishop could have been introduced 2 issues ago in lieu of the weird expository sequence where Bishop tells Knight all about the EPF, it's still an interesting new avenue for the character. And the ending was legitimately startling, really playing off Hob's "ends justify the means" characterization (or "eye for an eye" but that would be too cliche a pun).

Santolouco and Pattison knocked the action out of the park this issue and I dug how the gears shifted from suspenseful to fun between the escape and the car chase.