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Old 11-16-2017, 11:08 PM   #81
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I also equate this to teenager angst, I'm guessing this will be controversial but it's my conclusion over what I've seen the past few years.

We all have angst when we're younger and deal with it with some subculture, whether it's punk, goth, nerd, etc. Those who don't fit to the "normal" standard were freaks and we went to the subculture that most interested us or felt was us.

What happened recently is we finally started seeing needed social change towards gays and others. But somewhere along those lines this idea was warped into "they have been holding us back" and "rethink who you are" and "they" are the evil ones. This is highly attractive to kids who are confused and are trying to find who they are in this world.

Instead of wearing all black however they are a different gender and because they were told they were an infinite amount of genders they can choose. Now I'm not saying people can't have different likes or that I know better than them who they are but it's gotten to a ridiculous point that it's not out there to say that many of these people are just in it to feel accepted. Because we've all joined subcultures to feel accepted even if it wasn't for us.

Young people also like to protest, whether it's war, the 1% which was "my generation" and now gender, this will continue as long as we live over different issues. Not all their talking points are great but if you question them you're treated poorly, they found that through social media they can bully people into submission, which has had bad consequences including in my opinion getting Trump elected.

Live and let live.

What's wrong with being a "freak"? I certainly wore that label with pride, to shame others for not conforming to your views makes you as bad as the people you are claiming to be better than. Learn to fight your battles, giving rights to gays/trans etc is excellent, shaming people because they're ignorant for not knowing there are 60+ genders is not. You hurt the credibility of what has taken a long time to achieve and even what you want to continue to achieve when it comes to social progress. And don't talk about privilege when you're living in a first world country please, it's insulting.
All of this sounds about right.

For me, as a kid in Seattle, there was definitely a lot of "rebellions" at times. I saw a lot of the "grunge movement" unfold around me firsthand in about middle school (it combusted almost as quickly as it happened, by the way... people act like it was this decade long thing -- it wasn't) juxtaposed against the equally growing gangsta rap crowd, and also Marilyn Manson-fueled goths (and I loved Manson's stuff but man he has some sh**** fans). I always got along with the gangsta crowd and some odd ducks from various clicks. Everyone else, it was a whole lot of, "I'm not gonna conform! Screw the system, screw the man, screw the norm! Are you with me? Why aren't you with me? Rahhh!!!" For me, this just seemed exhausting. I mean, why do this? Why even contemplate doing this? It didn't seem remotely healthy or fulfilling. The idea of a label or a click/tribe to assign myself to was never an attractive one, so I'd rather just conform all the same (within reason). It saves a lot of calories and probably a tumor or two as well, as best as I could figure.

Now? Yeah. It's maybe not a 1:1 thing, but I could definitely see the "pick one of these 60+ genders" being the new "choose your click" kind of a thing since nowadays there's a distinct lack of any viable alternatives. Gangsta rap has died and become some kind of pop thing with skinny jeans and emo stuff and goth has sort of transitioned into the gender thing, and nothing has really replaced either niche those two things held in the 90s. Even the more obscure stuff like "sk8er"s and such... that's gone, largely.

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Old 11-17-2017, 12:22 AM   #82
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I imagine it really isn't much different than the stereotypes people lived in back in the 80's or 90's.

You had your "skater boys," your "goths," your "nerds or geeks," your "dudebro football players," your, "average joes," etc.

It's the same reason nobody cares about Trekkies anymore. Remember how Star Trek fans used to be made fun of, then the anime craze happened in America and people stopped caring about Trekkies and then "anime weeabo's" became the next big thing to make fun of? And even nowadays you don't see much people complaining about that either, given how mainstream cosplaying and dressing up as cartoon characters has become.
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:24 AM   #83
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I dunno if it's really more of a case of being "openly nerdy" becoming more socially acceptable or due to people born in the 80s/90s becoming adults now and no longer caring what people think of their hobbies or someone else's hobbies. I'm sure HS kids still get mocked for liking certain games or tv shows these days.
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I've seen better.
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:31 AM   #84
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It's the same reason nobody cares about Trekkies anymore.
Hell, Trek doesn't even care about Trekkies anymore.

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Remember how Star Trek fans used to be made fun of, then the anime craze happened in America and people stopped caring about Trekkies and then "anime weeabo's" became the next big thing to make fun of? And even nowadays you don't see much people complaining about that either, given how mainstream cosplaying and dressing up as cartoon characters has become.
Yeah. I remember well flak being thrown at the Pokemon, Digimon, Magic: The Gathering type of peeps. It's an interesting place we're in now. Teenagers have successfully been rendered to (mostly) be unable to project their hate onto any specific faction and geeky dudes are apparently more the norm than the jock types, so things are just getting crazy.

I'm not saying it's better or worse. It's just interesting. I don't know where this course will lead.
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:33 AM   #85
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Hell, Trek doesn't even care about Trekkies anymore.



Yeah. I remember flak being thrown at the Pokemon, Digimon, Magic: The Gathering type of peeps. It's an interesting place we're in now. Teenagers are successfully unable to project their hate onto any specific faction and geeky dudes are apparently more the norm than the jock types, so things are just getting crazy.

I'm not saying it's better or worse. It's just interesting. I don't know where this course will lead.
Well depends what type of "geek" you mean. When a young girls says she loves geeky guys, chances are she doesn't mean fat ugly or scrawny ones, but more like regular looking or hipster looking guys who happen to like Dr. Who and such. Just like the athletic guys will always be popular.
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I've seen better.
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:35 AM   #86
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I know I said I wouldn't post here anymore but I just realized something...


Bronies are today's Trekkies
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I know I said I wouldn't post here anymore but I just realized something...


Bronies are today's Trekkies
Tbh bronies are a strange phenomenon. That's a cartoon for 6 year old girls or smth. I know people say it's written very well for a cartoon of such target demographic... but what exactly is "good writing" for a cartoon aimed at 6 year old girls? How does that standard meet the requirements of a grown man looking for a new cartoon series to watch?
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:42 AM   #88
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Well depends what type of "geek" you mean. When a young girls says she loves geeky guys, chances are she doesn't mean fat ugly or scrawny ones, but more like regular looking or hipster looking guys who happen to like Dr. Who and such. Just like the athletic guys will always be popular.
Yeah, that's what I mean. Fat ugly dudes will always and forever be fat and ugly dudes. Luckily, there are plenty of fat and ugly chicks for them, by the same token.
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Yeah, that's what I mean. Fat ugly dudes will always and forever be fat and ugly dudes. Luckily, there are plenty of fat and ugly chicks for them, by the same token.
Tbh I've seen several couples where one of the parties is fat and the other is thin and or fit. So fat people dating fat people isn't really a rule set in stone from my observation.
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:47 AM   #90
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Tbh I've seen several couples where one of the parties is fat and the other is thin and or fit. So fat people dating fat people isn't really a rule set in stone from my observation.
Oh sure. But in those cases that's kind of the way it shakes only if one party is super charismatic or bleed money. Or just some strange background story between them that doesn't fall into any standard parameters. Or they simply vibe.
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Oh sure. But in those cases that's kind of the way it shakes out unless one party is super charismatic or bleed money. Or just some strange background story between them that doesn't fall into any standard parameters.
I had a classmate in HS who was like 5'6, balding already at 16 and was a bit fat. He was very popular and got lots of girls. People, girls/women in particular, can really let physical appearance slide when ti comes to picking a partner, from my observation, even though being good looking obviously puts you ahead of most of your peers.

It might also depend on the country or area you live in. USA has a very high obesity rate compared to my country. Sure we have fat people as well, but I don't see many very fat people among the younger generations here. I notice people start to get fatter when they hit 40, with their metabolism slowing down and such. And by then they're usually already married anyway.
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Oh I’m sorry. You are very smart and obviously know your stuff. You totally get what I’m talking about don’t you?
I do.
You apparently missed what I was talking in the first post, which is why I have repeated it for you.

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Glad to learn how many of y’all are transphobic and really glad to be part of this community. Hope you guys never change because Casey Jones always needs a bad guy to fight against and I’ve just realized how many there are in my midst.
There is nothing transphobic about acknowledging objective reality.

Unless you think that objective reality in which biological sexes do exist is transphobic, but this is lunacy, which could not be discussed seriously.

Or you belong to this subset of Left, that insist that people should calling vagina "front hole" and call breastfeeding "chestfeeding", because otherwise it's transphobic?

BTW, Casey do you know, what all those words mean? Last time you have confused claustrophobic with homosexual, so...

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Man... Does this mean I stop being female when I reach menopause?
I mean, I know women of that age aren't really considered people anymore, but at least I thought I'd get to keep the female designation.
Fat trolling is not your forte, darling.
But if you want to continue playing role of "left lunatic", be my guest.
I hope you are smarter than that, because otherwise you come as liberal version of CyberCubed or this MMC guy.
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