03-09-2018, 09:04 PM | #1 |
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Why was James Avery replaced in Season 8 of the 1987 show?
In S8-S10 ,the "Red Sky" episodes, Shredder is voiced by William Martin instead of James Avery.
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03-09-2018, 09:39 PM | #2 | |
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I've heard that it was because of scheduling conflicts with Fresh Prince of Bel Air but that could be untrue.
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03-10-2018, 12:33 AM | #3 |
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He was already gone for half of Season 7 too. His actor probably just got too busy.
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03-10-2018, 09:39 AM | #4 |
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Season 4 took place before Fresh Prince started IIRC. That was a full 13/26 episode season with Shredder and Krang being absent in every second episode and one week entirely. That number decreased through 5-7 with more repeats, possibly because of Fresh Prince, but who knows. Jim Cummings even voiced Shredder in one episode of Season 5 and the European episodes which came later.
In short, CyberCubed is right. James Avery was too busy. |
03-10-2018, 10:07 AM | #5 |
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who did the 89 replacement voice?
The one in episodes like metalhead and leatherhead? doesn't quite sound like jim cummings. it's more gritty. I didn't care for it at first, but over the years, it's grown on me.
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03-10-2018, 10:46 AM | #6 |
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It's quite impressive how Townsend Coleman and Cam Clark never missed an episode in the series. Even Rene Jacobs missed one or two(the episodes without April)... Turtle Trek and what else?
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03-10-2018, 12:14 PM | #7 | |
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That was Dorian Harewood. He also filled in for War Machine in Iron Man when James Avery was unavailable.
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03-10-2018, 01:52 PM | #8 |
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was that his only voice on the show? seems like he only did it for one season.
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03-10-2018, 02:27 PM | #9 |
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03-10-2018, 02:31 PM | #10 |
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Were the "Vacation in Europe" episodes produced at the same time as season 4? (even if they didn't air until 1992)
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03-10-2018, 04:59 PM | #11 |
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Yes, I'm pretty sure they were produced and aired in other countries at the time of 1990, but didn't air in the states until '92 when USA Network acquired the rights to the show.
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03-12-2018, 09:13 PM | #13 |
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That is one of the many reasons why Leonardo and Michelangelo were my two favorite turtles in the original series. Their voices never changed. The substitutes for Rob and Barry were fine, but it wasn't quite the same when they weren't there.
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03-13-2018, 12:35 AM | #14 |
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According to the man himself, James Avery stated that his contract expired.
His work on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, also made it difficult for him to continue his VA role as The Shredder. Listen in at @6:14. Hopefully the studio didn't refuse to renew his contract, but if so, it unfortunately does happen. Spoiler:
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03-15-2018, 05:39 PM | #15 |
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Avery was too busy. He had less time for TMNT due to his commitments on Fresh Prince so I'm thinking he was let go by the studio.
Can you imagine having to spend the morning going into work to shout at Krang and then in the afternoon going into to work to shout at Will Smith? Requires a lot of energy. We didn't get those episodes in the UK until Christmas 1992. |
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I dunno what other shows Cam Clarke and Townsend Coleman were doing at the time, but I know Paulsen voiced The Mask and Mighty max in the 90s at least. And also one of the Animaniacs. Also, Coleman was the Rat King and Cam Clarke was Rocksteady. Barry was Bebop I think. Paulsen was... Zach and Mister Ogg. Poor Rob. |
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03-17-2018, 04:14 AM | #18 | |
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Cam Clarke and Townsend Coleman
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03-18-2018, 05:20 PM | #19 |
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03-19-2018, 10:28 AM | #20 |
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he either intentionally or un intentionally goes into his shredder voice twice in that clip .
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