Re-Editing Out of the Shadows

[ZariusTwo]

I thought I'd take a stab at a redit of Out of the Shadows, here's my take on the opening

https://vimeo.com/207087214

Details

-Removed original opening with the Turtles attending the basketball game
-Removed most of Casey's cheesy lines to Shredder, Rocksteady and Bebop
-Removed Giant Nun-Chuck Grapplers on the Party Wagon
-Added a brief "Inside Technodrome" Cue from Powder's TMNT (OT) Remastered soundtrack

Still working my way through it, but I think my work is mostly cut out for me with Casey's amount of cheese right now

[neatoman]

Here are a couple of suggestions:

1. Trim the scenes of April and Casey in custody, remove entirely if possible.
2. Remove the dick and fart jokes.
3. Remove the explaination of Bebop and Rocksteady's mutation, none is better than what we got.
4. Remove the "we could be human" plotline, it went nowhere.
5. Add a text crawl or something explaining some of the unclear things, like who or what Krang is. You could add a new explaination for how the mutation worked.

And if there are deleted scenes that fixes any of this, please reinsert them.

I must admit, it's a good idea to start with the transfer scene.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Here are a couple of suggestions:

1. Trim the scenes of April and Casey in custody, remove entirely if possible.
   
2. Remove the dick and fart jokes.
3. Remove the explaination of Bebop and Rocksteady's mutation, none is better than what we got.
4. Remove the "we could be human" plotline, it went nowhere.
5. Add a text crawl or something explaining some of the unclear things, like who or what Krang is. You could add a new explaination for how the mutation worked.

And if there are deleted scenes that fixes any of this, please reinsert them.

I must admit, it's a good idea to start with the transfer scene.

I had no problem with the dick joke, If you were mutated, You too would check between your pants if your parts are still there.

[Autbot_Benz]

Don't call him Casey Jones he wasn't. He was Amell Pissy Pants mcCop

[Andrew NDB]

It should be the world's easiest reedit, to fix the movie. I'll even tell you how to do it: what you do is you import the whole movie into Adobe Premiere/Final Cut Pro/Sony Vegas, make a new sequence, import the "Out of the Shadows" video file, slam it onto the timeline... then highlight the whole thing, delete it, and hit save.

Done.

[myconius]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It should be the world's easiest reedit, to fix the movie. I'll even tell you how to do it: what you do is you import the whole movie into Adobe Premiere/Final Cut Pro/Sony Vegas, make a new sequence, import the "Out of the Shadows" video file, slam it onto the timeline... then highlight the whole thing, delete it, and hit save.

Done.

PWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! X'''D

i haven't had a good laugh like that in a long while!!!

thanks Drew. X///)

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I had no problem with the dick joke, If you were mutated, You too would check between your pants if your parts are still there.

Uh.....what?!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

How long is the movie after all the cuts?

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

How long is the movie after all the cuts?

These are just test edits, I haven't committed to the full timeline yet, I'll let you know when I put them all together

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

These are just test edits, I haven't committed to the full timeline yet, I'll let you know when I put them all together

Awesome, thanks for letting me know. I wonder if it would be possible to cut the entire movie to the length of 1 hour and have it play out like a multi-parter episode from the FW cartoon. For added effect, maybe you could insert some of the tracks from the show into the scenes with low/no music.

[sdp]

You either hate the movie or you like it for what it is, this isn't a situation like The Next Mutation where editing could actually make the movie better IMHO.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by sdp

You either hate the movie or you like it for what it is, this isn't a situation like The Next Mutation where editing could actually make the movie better IMHO.

How can you make a monstrosity like Next Mutation better? I like the sarcasm and puns and some jokes you get when yo are older like the first three films and the 1987 cartoon,but Next Mutation is plain out camp and I don't mean the enjoyable Adam West variety. You also cant cut out Venus and there is not enough footage of Shredder to keep him in it. Not to mean the corny voice over for his character.

Somewhat off topic,one thing I would like reedited,is Batman Forever. Cut out some of the neon, add more of the psychological study where Val Kilmer and Chase are talking and he says 'I killed them'. Also, digitally makeover Jim Caray in the final act. Then you got yourself a pretty good film.

[sdp]

It's been done before in short clips but I don't have them. Just editing out the goofy sound effects already tonally changes scenes completely and makes it better, anyone have the youtube clips of that? There was also a fan project going on about it but I think it's not going places quickly.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by sdp

It's been done before in short clips but I don't have them. Just editing out the goofy sound effects already tonally changes scenes completely and makes it better, anyone have the youtube clips of that? There was also a fan project going on about it but I think it's not going places quickly.

I hope I did not come off as rude in my previous post. It is easy to do on the Internet. I just have a highly negative view of the show. It has to be a monument mal task as some of it has to remain for it be anything cohesive.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by sdp

You either hate the movie or you like it for what it is, this isn't a situation like The Next Mutation where editing could actually make the movie better IMHO.

I like the movie for what it is, but that shouldn't deter anyone from wanting to delve into a little creative experimentation and seeing what the film is like by applying any lingering critiques a fan may have to the finished product. Even the good Star Wars movies have been re-edited by fans like Adywan's "Revisited" (which is even more of a Special Edition than the official Special Edition was)

Somewhat off topic,one thing I would like reedited,is Batman Forever. Cut out some of the neon, add more of the psychological study where Val Kilmer and Chase are talking and he says 'I killed them'. Also, digitally makeover Jim Caray in the final act. Then you got yourself a pretty good film.

Batman Forever has a few fanedits like the "Red Book Edition" and the "Virtual Workprint" (that one is fairly easy to find with a google search), they tend to include most of the deleted scenes (though not without much of a polish) and restore the darker, psychological elements you mention. I don't think there's been a real effort to really give it a good rendering/digital makeover though, maybe one day

[ZariusTwo]

I've been busy with other editing projects, but I should be resuming work on this within the week.

In the meantime, I've learned someone else, a reddit user called WhoJANKINS, has been editing the film and talks about what he's done here:

I was limited to the source material, so I couldn’t remove everything I wanted, or make DRASTIC changes. For instance, Since the I don’t have the soundtrack and voices in their own separate files from the actual footage, I was forced to leave some scenes in the film, that I would have otherwise removed. Also, some scenes (like Mikey in the Halloween Parade) had to be kept due to continuity issues.

I removed about 23 minutes of footage. Including cheesy lines, unfunny jokes, unnecessary basketball player cameos, mutant dick jokes, sexy Megan Fox scenes, and more.. And I only added about 3 minutes of extra footage not scene in the original film (Judith Hoag Cameo).

Here are a couple of the major changes..

Casey Jones - Taking out his introduction/storyline in the first act gives him a more mysterious entrance when he rescues April. I wish I could have taken him out of the chase scene completely but was impossible due to limitations with the sound. But removing his early scenes, actually move the movie along better, as well as clear up some annoying plot holes, like WHY would a bartender be more scared of Casey Jones than the Shredder!? But now, with removing a couple scenes, the bartender never had a GPS on the phones.

Mutagen DNA story line - By removing a few lines, the mutagen no longer works by activating a dormant gene from their animal ancestry. Leaving the mutagen a mystery. Or you can assume it works like it has in past iterations.

There are also dozens of little cuts and re-edits that I feel make the movie just a little bit more watchable. Most of the changes were made for the first two acts.. The third act is a lot of just action, and I thought that is what this movie did well at.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TMNT/commen...dows_fan_edit/

[BlueBandana]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I've been busy with other editing projects, but I should be resuming work on this within the week.

In the meantime, I've learned someone else, a reddit user called WhoJANKINS, has been editing the film and talks about what he's done here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TMNT/commen...dows_fan_edit/

Did WhoJANKINS ever share a link to download his fan edit? I'd be interested in seeing it.

[robb0226]

I like the scenes you have so far. I have a feeling that the end run time will be short, but as long as it has a good outcome the length doesn't matter.
Look forward to seeing the finished product.