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Old 06-01-2018, 02:54 PM   #281
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at what point did all the news networks become Fox News of the left?
Not a simple answer. Most likely it happened slowly over many years. It’s weird to think back around the time Obama was elected president that Tucker Carlson was on MSNBC and Glen Beck was on HLN/CNN. IIRC. So maybe if I had to pick a year I’d say around 2008 folks in media really started picking teams. Or at least being more obvious about the team they support. IMO.

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What's funny/sad about that is most, if not all, social issues ARE economic ones.
True. However when numbers come up eyes glaze over. And the economy is similar to all other issues in that not all “experts” agree with all ideas.

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But it's a good question, about what I think of as the Average American. I guess, to me the AA is someone with a high school diploma, employed but likely underpaid, and is one catastrophic illness/injury from bankruptcy.
I would not be able to guess if the AA is a liberal or conservative. Or their grasp on any particular issue. I think their are uninformed/low information voters on both sides. Nothing anyone can do about it.
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Old 06-01-2018, 10:02 PM   #282
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French, Canadian and Mexican outlets are definitely reporting a lot on this. I wasn't trying to make a statement of "people don't follow the important news" with my question.

I know the other news are far more easy to have an opinion and be passionate about it but I don't know, I expected more from this.
Reporting, yes, but do "average citizens" in those country care about it?
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:50 PM   #283
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Well, this is all going swimmingly....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...a-deal-charges
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:07 PM   #284
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Well, this is all going swimmingly....

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...a-deal-charges
yup Manafort is charged as Guilty and Micheal Cohen Pleads Guilty

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Old 08-21-2018, 06:41 PM   #286
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And yet, our President will remain unscathed and in office. Just watch.

People need to quit wishing for an impeachment or whatever, and make some serious plans for 2020. That's the only real option the other side has.

(Myself, I'll be shocked if we don't see a Two Term Trump.)
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And yet, our President will remain unscathed and in office. Just watch.
Nonsense, this is IT!!! Just like all the other times!!
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Nonsense, this is IT!!! Just like all the other times!!
Y'know the last time a President didn't get reelected? George H.W. Bush. Why? Because taxes were increased when he said they wouldn't. AKA, the bottom line, AKA money.

Clinton did a bunch of scummy stuff. We reelected him and skipped over all the lies, the sex crimes, etc.

George W. Bush did a bunch of scummy stuff. We reelected him and skipped over all the lies, the wars, the trampling of the Constitution.

Only way Trump doesn't last a full term is if somebody finds an underage body in his trunk or his bed. With pictures.
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Y'know the last time a President didn't get reelected? George H.W. Bush. Why? Because taxes were increased when he said they wouldn't. AKA, the bottom line, AKA money.

Clinton did a bunch of scummy stuff. We reelected him and skipped over all the lies, the sex crimes, etc.

George W. Bush did a bunch of scummy stuff. We reelected him and skipped over all the lies, the wars, the trampling of the Constitution.

Only way Trump doesn't last a full term is if somebody finds an underage body in his trunk or his bed. With pictures.
100% correct. All of this. Dollars and jobs... the rest is noise.
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Personally I'd prefer it if people aimed for 2018, rather than 2020. I'll never quite understand why people focus all of their efforts on an election with their physical vote has the least amount of power.

It's just sad that most people aren't going to get hosed by income taxes until after this upcoming midterm election.

I checked my withholding, have you guys?
even changing it halfway through the tax year puts me on the line for about $1, 000 in taxes I wasn't accounting for.

for what it's worth though, I don't know that this is exactly the death knell for this Administration either. Not because I don't think they deserve it, but because I don't want to get my hopes up only to have them pulled away from me at the last second. I'm still reeling over the disappointment that there aren't taco trucks on every corner.
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