DC Relaunching AGAIN

[MikeandRaph87]

I hate it when you have to follow the going ons company-wide to understand events within the little that one does read. I thought Joker transformed into Prometheus, but instead its a new character from another event which I did not follow. Synder just makes this title confusing.
https://amp.newsarama.com/41741-snyd...-spoilers.html

[MikeandRaph87]

https://www.cbr.com/preview-detective-comics-988/amp/

This actually interest me. Murder mystery with super villains yet simple.Its like the early 70s' and Hush melded into one. Hope I am not overly sold on it.

Its not Firefly then. Was it ever said why Garfield Lynns was killed off and replaced with the originial one-shot Firefly, Ted Carson?

[ZariusTwo]

More potential changes coming for Nightwing

Benjamin Percy's run possibly being cut short

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/09...off-nightwing/

Grayson losing his Dick (the name)

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/09/11/nightwing-dick/

[sdp]

That's the dumbest idea ever, why are they changing his name now? The height of the Dick name/joke was in the 90s/early 00s online and everyone got it out of their system.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

More potential changes coming for Nightwing

Benjamin Percy's run possibly being cut short

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/09...off-nightwing/

Grayson losing his Dick (the name)

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/09/11/nightwing-dick/

I mean, I'm not gonna read it anyway. So whatever. But yeah, the name thing is dumb. We still cal Dick Cheney "Dick". And we call Nixon "Tricky Dick." And it's not "Rich Tracy."

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I mean, I'm not gonna read it anyway. So whatever. But yeah, the name thing is dumb. We still cal Dick Cheney "Dick". And we call Nixon "Tricky Dick." And it's not "Rich Tracy."

This is Rich, something only a Didiot would go for. Jokes of a different rime or not he is Dick Grayson.


Thoughts on the Batman timeline post or whoever that is supposed to be that Lex imprisioned?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

This is Rich, something only a Didiot would go for. Jokes of a different rime or not he is Dick Grayson.


Thoughts on the Batman timeline post or whoever that is supposed to be that Lex imprisioned?

Read Metal. It's not a new character.

The Batman Who Laughs is awesome.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Read Metal. It's not a new character.

The Batman Who Laughs is awesome.

It was confusing. I thought it was Joker becoming Prometheus. There should have been more of an explaination because not everyone reads everything with Synder's name on it. A box with an explaination and issue reference was required.

I like seeing Black Manta and Cheetah getting some promince.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

It was confusing. I thought it was Joker becoming Prometheus. There should have been more of an explaination because not everyone reads everything with Synder's name on it. A box with an explaination and issue reference was required.

I like seeing Black Manta and Cheetah getting some promince.

Well, I mean, it did directly spiral out of Metal and No Justice. Myself, I barely made it through Metal and only read maybe the first issue of No Justice. I'm not a Justice League guy... too many characters, too cosmic/meta focused.

But the Batman Who Laughs is damn good.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Well, I mean, it did directly spiral out of Metal and No Justice. Myself, I barely made it through Metal and only read maybe the first issue of No Justice. I'm not a Justice League guy... too many characters, too cosmic/meta focused.

But the Batman Who Laughs is damn good.

I did not read any of that, but the Legion of Doom concept had me intrigued. Its just too much stuff to take in with no explaination. I am a Justice League fan/reader. I do own the satellitte era in its entirity in actual comic form, #77-232,240,250, and Annuals#1 and 2.

Nothing against The Batman Who Laughs, dont just assume a fairly new character is known to the readership. He is just the latest of the anti-Batman though.

[MikeandRaph87]

More bad news for Mr. Grayson.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/bamsmac...-tom-king/amp/

His inclusion was why I was reading the title the last few issues. Ah,well.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Spoiler:

Official promo art... apparently, things don't get better for the Bat family. Delightful.

[ZariusTwo]

All it's done is turn me completely off the Bat product.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

All it's done is turn me completely off the Bat product.

I'm actually interested in both the Red Hood and Batgirl stuff... because we're FINALLY moving away from Hipster Babs, and of course, Scott Lobdell has been KILLING it with Rebirth RH&O.

The last Rebirth Nightwing I read was the Judge story arc (really liked it). And Tom King's Batman continues to be... Tom King's Batman.

Also, I find it very odd that Tim Drake wasn't mentioned at all in that poster...

And, of course, it pisses me off that DC doesn't consider Helena Bertinelli, Cassandra Cain, or Stephanie Brown as worthy of inclusion in the Bat Fam.

[MikeandRaph87]

What issue numbers was The Judge arc? Rebirth #15-20 was a good sequel to the Morrison Dick as Batman /Dr. Hurt stuff.


Batgirl was solid when she started facing Bat Rogues around issue #20, but yeah the last two directions left a lot to be desired.

And, of course, it pisses me off that DC doesn't consider Helena Bertinelli, Cassandra Cain, or Stephanie Brown as worthy of inclusion in the Bat Fam

Who are they?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Also, another little note I picked up about Batman vol. 3#54, Dick Grayson as Robin mentions Bane. Has history changed and Bane appeared earlier in Batman's career? Of course Dick " Robin" Grayson faced Bane in other media in Batman: TAS and Batman & Robin, but not in the comics as the Knightfall events are what lead Dick to being reincorporated into the Bat Family. How would Knightfall work with just Dick and Barbara around?

Maybe they faced Bane before as they keep condensing stuff. In the New 52 there was a scene of Lex figuring out Bruce was Batman once Nightwing was unmasked. He studied a phot collage of Batman and Robin and Bruce and Dick and one pic showed Harley in the era of Dick as Robin.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Maybe they faced Bane before as they keep condensing stuff. In the New 52 there was a scene of Lex figuring out Bruce was Batman once Nightwing was unmasked. He studied a phot collage of Batman and Robin and Bruce and Dick and one pic showed Harley in the era of Dick as Robin.

I didnt realize Harley Quinn showed up earlier now as well. I want to see Batman and Robin fighting these villains that showed up after the Robin switch in more than a reference or panel. Anyone after Killer Croc chronologically.

[ZariusTwo]

And now Nightwing has lost it's writer. Percy will depart with Issue 50

https://twitter.com/Benjamin_Percy/s...97788077006848

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

And now Nightwing has lost it's writer. Percy will depart with Issue 50

https://twitter.com/Benjamin_Percy/s...97788077006848

Excellent. Maybe that means DC will abort the stupid "amnesiac / brain-damaged" Nightwing story arc, or at least, condense it and then move out, effectively retconning it.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Excellent. Maybe that means DC will abort the stupid "amnesiac / brain-damaged" Nightwing story arc, or at least, condense it and then move out, effectively retconning it.

No, the amnesia storyline wasn't Ben's idea, he's been instructed by editorial to kick it off.