Shooting at high school in Parkland, Fla.

*TurtleWA* · 02-14-2018, 04:20 PM

Sadly it has happened again.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/live-upda...200936418.html

*plastroncafe* · 02-14-2018, 05:04 PM

Glad the authorities have a suspect in custody.
Am looking forward to them standing trial.

When I last checked Florida had the death penalty.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-14-2018, 05:15 PM

Seeing some screencaps of the guy's now-shut down Instagram where he had comments talking about "Allhu akbar!" over and over again.

It might be bullsh** though.

*Autbot_Benz* · 02-14-2018, 05:28 PM

The guy was wearing a MAGA hat on his instagram so doesn't surprise me he was a Trump lover.

As long as the Republicans are the bitches of the NRA nothing will happen. Best part is on twitter when Republican senators say thoughts and prayers people retweet them and post how much money they took from the NRA.

*Katie* · 02-14-2018, 08:03 PM

Actually state records indicate he was a registered Democrat. The MAGA hat was likely some kind of ruse...or maybe he switched sides. Who knows. Or cares. Kids died.

Killing innocent people is not a left or right only issue.

This was a messed up kid who apparently thought Elliot Rogers was some kind of Hero.

*Storm Eagle* · 02-14-2018, 08:41 PM

He had to do this on Valentine's Day. Who rejected him?

*plastroncafe* · 02-14-2018, 08:48 PM

It's Ash Wednesday too.
Though that might not mean anything either.

I'm still really surprised they got him alive.

~~Sumac~~ · 02-14-2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

The guy was wearing a MAGA hat on his instagram so doesn't surprise me he was a Trump lover.

As long as the Republicans are the bitches of the NRA nothing will happen. Best part is on twitter when Republican senators say thoughts and prayers people retweet them and post how much money they took from the NRA.

Because there was no shooting during Obama presidency, no sir.

How about not bringing your personal agenda into stuff like this?

*Autbot_Benz* · 02-14-2018, 10:10 PM

I never said no shootings happened under obama plenty did. this is the 8th shooting in the first seven weeks of the year. but lets keep with thoughts and prayers that will help

*ProphetofGanja* · 02-15-2018, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

...this is the 8th shooting in the first seven weeks of the year.

*18th, sadly

*Autbot_Benz* · 02-15-2018, 11:16 AM

The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP

BREAKING: Leader of white nationalist group has confirmed suspect in Florida school shooting was member of his organization.

*plastroncafe* · 02-15-2018, 11:40 AM

https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/s...87511017869316

Seems the source for that Allu Akbar Instagram was some shotty reporting from Infowars.

I think my favorite part is that this particular media Outlet released that the shooter was a communist based on a picture of someone else wearing a 10 year old shirt of the Day t-shirt.

I'll have to tell the friend of mine who also bought that shirt that now he's apparently a member of the Communist Party...

*Autbot_Benz* · 02-15-2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/s...87511017869316

Seems the source for that Allu Akbar Instagram was some shotty reporting from Infowars.

I think my favorite part is that this particular media Outlet released that the shooter was a communist based on a picture of someone else wearing a 10 year old shirt of the Day t-shirt.

I'll have to tell the friend of mine who also bought that shirt that now he's apparently a member of the Communist Party...

anyone who believes anything Info Wars says needs to have there head examined

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-15-2018, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

https://twitter.com/RespectableLaw/s...87511017869316

Seems the source for that Allu Akbar Instagram was some shotty reporting from Infowars.

Shoddy reporting!?

I'll have you know, you uninformed liberal woman, that Alex Jones is the only hero brave enough to warn us about how THEY TURNED THE FRIGGIN' FROGS GAY!!!!

*plastroncafe* · 02-15-2018, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Shoddy reporting!?

I'll have you know, you uninformed liberal woman, that Alex Jones is the only hero brave enough to warn us about how THEY TURNED THE FRIGGIN' FROGS GAY!!!!

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-15-2018, 12:24 PM

So, how many more mass shootings before we start cracking down on men with a history of violence?

Kid was already identified by the school as a potential threat; he wasn't allowed on campus with a gun; other students said he had already been labeled as a probable shooter.

So... are we ever going to take this seriously?

... And this is why I'd rather make fun of Alex Jones. Much less depressing. Who doesn't love a gay frog?

*plastroncafe* · 02-15-2018, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

So, how many more mass shootings before we start cracking down on men with a history of violence?

This is a very good question.
And now would be a great time for all the #NotAllMen #WhatAboutTheMen MRA folks to come in and lead the discussion.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-15-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

This is a very good question.
And now would be a great time for all the #NotAllMen #WhatAboutTheMen MRA folks to come in and lead the discussion.

I've been thinking about this a lot since yesterday, due to our cultural and even my own personal circumstances.

We need to stop portraying angry as cool. Angry is not cool. Walking around with a bad attitude and a chip on our shoulder, with barely restrained violence and mayhem, is dangerous and psychotic.

Raphael is not a role model. Wolverine is not a role model.

Emotional control is a GOOD thing. More Vulcan, less Romulan.

But good luck selling gun-hoarding Southern men on that.

*plastroncafe* · 02-15-2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I've been thinking about this a lot since yesterday, due to our cultural and even my own personal circumstances.

We need to stop portraying angry as cool. Angry is not cool. Walking around with a bad attitude and a chip on our shoulder, with barely restrained violence and mayhem, is dangerous and psychotic.

Raphael is not a role model. Wolverine is not a role model.

Emotional control is a GOOD thing. More Vulcan, less Romulan.

But good luck selling gun-hoarding Southern men on that.

Something my old shrink used to say was that Anger, righteous grounded anger, is the force by which we overcome obstacles.

This is different from rage, which is unfocused destruction for the sake of destruction.
Being, and getting, angry isn't the problem. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being emotional and having emotions.
In my opinion that's just an easy way for an unaffected person to shut down someone who was/is legitimately wronged.

I'm not saying that's always the case, just that it's an easy course of events to adopt.

There is nothing inherently more virtuous in the person who doesn't appear to be angry.
Or being emotionally non-invested in a thing.
And culturally...American Masculinity has prided, and damn near defined itself, as lacking outward emotions.
I think that's a mistake.

Raph isn't a rolemodel. Neither is Wolverine.
Or Tony Soprano, or Walter White.

They're all monsters in their own way.
But they're not monsters for getting angry.
They're monsters because they do don't anything productive with their anger.

They're just bigger toddlers not using their words.

*TurtleWA* · 02-15-2018, 12:40 PM

What is happening now that it seems like there are so many school shootings?

I mean we have always had mental illness. We always had weapons. A person in the 1970s could have easily murdered an entire classroom with two pistols. Or used a hunting rifle as a sniper. If it’s because it’s always in the news and encourages copies I ’m not sure if I accept that because TV, radio and news papers have been popular for decades.

So what is going on? Is it really because of access to weapons, mental health and media?

02-14-2018, 04:20 PM	#1
TurtleWA Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: WA Posts: 2,507	Shooting at high school in Parkland, Fla. Sadly it has happened again. https://www.yahoo.com/news/live-upda...200936418.html

02-14-2018, 05:15 PM	#3
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,251	Seeing some screencaps of the guy's now-shut down Instagram where he had comments talking about "Allhu akbar!" over and over again. It might be bullsh** though. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-14-2018, 05:28 PM	#4
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,275	The guy was wearing a MAGA hat on his instagram so doesn't surprise me he was a Trump lover. As long as the Republicans are the bitches of the NRA nothing will happen. Best part is on twitter when Republican senators say thoughts and prayers people retweet them and post how much money they took from the NRA. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

02-14-2018, 08:03 PM	#5
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	Actually state records indicate he was a registered Democrat. The MAGA hat was likely some kind of ruse...or maybe he switched sides. Who knows. Or cares. Kids died. Killing innocent people is not a left or right only issue. This was a messed up kid who apparently thought Elliot Rogers was some kind of Hero. __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

02-14-2018, 10:10 PM	#9
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,275	I never said no shootings happened under obama plenty did. this is the 8th shooting in the first seven weeks of the year. but lets keep with thoughts and prayers that will help __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

02-14-2018, 08:41 PM	#6
Storm Eagle Saved by Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,238	He had to do this on Valentine's Day. Who rejected him?

02-15-2018, 11:16 AM	#11
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 8,275	The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP BREAKING: Leader of white nationalist group has confirmed suspect in Florida school shooting was member of his organization. __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

02-15-2018, 12:24 PM	#16
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	So, how many more mass shootings before we start cracking down on men with a history of violence? Kid was already identified by the school as a potential threat; he wasn't allowed on campus with a gun; other students said he had already been labeled as a probable shooter. So... are we ever going to take this seriously? ... And this is why I'd rather make fun of Alex Jones. Much less depressing. Who doesn't love a gay frog? __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

02-15-2018, 12:40 PM	#20
TurtleWA Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: WA Posts: 2,507	What is happening now that it seems like there are so many school shootings? I mean we have always had mental illness. We always had weapons. A person in the 1970s could have easily murdered an entire classroom with two pistols. Or used a hunting rifle as a sniper. If it’s because it’s always in the news and encourages copies I ’m not sure if I accept that because TV, radio and news papers have been popular for decades. So what is going on? Is it really because of access to weapons, mental health and media?