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View Poll Results: Would you like the idea of the turtles being aleins?
Absolutly! 5 2.70%
It doesn't matter to me 29 15.68%
Terrible! 151 81.62%
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:22 PM   #201
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I don't disagree, as today's audiences are quite savvy. However, not everyone has a computer or would follow the day-by-day details like we would. Depending on who you ask, most casual fans tend to go with their own default media version of the Turtles, and that's that. At least, that's my personal experience prior to joining the forum talking.

And we now or will soon have a new and younger generation of TMNT fans to grow up with the Nicktoon/Viacom film as their first media impression, as we did in past generations with the 87 and '03 series and the respective films. Fortunately, there are almost 30 years-plus of other Turtle media, so it isn't like the next generation doesn't have other options, and "huh, so they aren't always space turtles, after all."

Or to go with TurtleMaster4's advice, "view it as part of the Multiverse and leave it at that." Which is how I'll likely interpret the film, anyway (besides being, as Andrew rightfully observed, "a toy fiesta").
Yeah I see where you're coming from, but the vast majority of the audience these days go to the cinema with a certain idea of what they're about to see, specially with blockbusters. Of course they don't know the details of the plot, but this particular subject doesn't look like it'll be treated secretly if it finally gets to happen. It's already being advertised, and that can only get bigger as we get closer to the release date.

To make it clear, it's not gonna be a twist on the plot intended to surprise the audience, it's just gonna be the status quo of that particular incarnation.

And I just can't view it as part of the Multiverse and leave it at that. I wish I could, as I'm sure it'd made all the different universes easier to enjoy, but I need some things to always be there. I'm not even saying the origin story shouldn't be touched, but if they make them into aliens, I'm feeling like it's a completely different thing.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:35 PM   #202
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I wish there was some way to prevent this movie from being filmed.

No Turtle movie at all is better than a bad movie that will remain bad forever.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:41 PM   #203
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I wish there was some way to prevent this movie from being filmed.

No Turtle movie at all is better than a bad movie that will remain bad forever.
Holy f*ck. Stop.

When we hear definite information about this, and not 15 seconds of Michael Bay talking, then freak out.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:42 PM   #204
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I wish there was some way to prevent this movie from being filmed.

No Turtle movie at all is better than a bad movie that will remain bad forever.
I wish there was a way to shut you up.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:53 PM   #205
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Holy f*ck. Stop.

When we hear definite information about this, and not 15 seconds of Michael Bay talking, then freak out.
Well then let's figure out why nobody from Viacom is coming out and correcting this misinformation?

If Michael Bay is an idiot, why isn't Nick on damage control?
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:57 PM   #206
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Because no damage has been done and only retards like you can possibly jump to the conclusions you have?

Aliens=tentacles=having girlfriends=Venus?

F*ck off.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:01 PM   #207
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I'd say how fast the info is being spread on all the movie and comic websites with people on all sites complaining says enough.

Usually misinformation gets clarified sooner or later.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:02 PM   #208
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Yeah I see where you're coming from, but the vast majority of the audience these days go to the cinema with a certain idea of what they're about to see, specially with blockbusters. Of course they don't know the details of the plot, but this particular subject doesn't look like it'll be treated secretly if it finally gets to happen. It's already being advertised, and that can only get bigger as we get closer to the release date.

To make it clear, it's not gonna be a twist on the plot intended to surprise the audience, it's just gonna be the status quo of that particular incarnation.

And I just can't view it as part of the Multiverse and leave it at that. I wish I could, as I'm sure it'd made all the different universes easier to enjoy, but I need some things to always be there. I'm not even saying the origin story shouldn't be touched, but if they make them into aliens, I'm feeling like it's a completely different thing.
Good points, all. I can only imagine how the focus groups -- and be assured there will be one -- will react to all this. Should be amusing.

In reading one of Andrew's recent posts, I certainly understand his point about not getting worked up (albeit for different reasons). Any other format, I'd be cynical or apathetic, but it's becoming a tad difficult to accept that in this case, as I did enjoy the live-action Turtle fare, despite the flaws. (Or that could be because I'm now a part of the fandom and able to express such and such Turtle-themed opinion in real time, for the first time in a long while.)

So, anyway, yes, I do mirror your views, even while I attempt to rationalize the rest. "It's just another Turtle movie, so just relax, etc." Or "ignore stupid canon," which I have done with the Turtles, from time to time. Admittedly, it is easy to say, harder to do at times.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:02 PM   #209
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The phrase "What in the tumbling ****?!" gets thrown around a lot these days...

...so permit me to do it again:


WHAT IN THE TUMBLING ****?!?!?!
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:10 PM   #210
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I want to play devil's advocate.

What if it does end up kind of like Superman.

What if the guys are the last four beings of there kind, what if coming to Earth as infants triggers Splinter's mutation and intelligent now he finds the children and raises them OR what if some of the same beings the guys are from purposely causes Splinter's mutation and also programs him with all the knowledge in order to train the Turtles to be incredible fighters.

What if Krang or any villain is the ones that destroyed their home world and is who they are trained to fight.

Over used plot yes, but I also think I could watch this film, particularly if the effects and fights scenes are top notch.

I feel there are certain aspects of the franchise that can't be altered, like the idea of family and the idea of the guys being real outsiders. I also feel if those aspects can be honored maybe something more out there could work.

Everyone else is making things up so I thought I would too
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:11 PM   #211
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I guess it'd be a lot easier for me to find the energy to get worked up about this if there had actually ever been a good TMNT movie. One sort of OK one, then a freefall in quality from there, movie after movie.
Really? I thought the fourth movie was at very least a step up from the third one.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:18 PM   #212
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I really hope bay dosent mess up our heroes origin. This is just a terrible idea
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:23 PM   #213
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F**k. This is all over the internet with so many people whining.

They can't honestly do any worse with the characters than Mirage themselves have at times. April and Rat King, anyone?
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:32 PM   #214
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There's got to be a petition to stop this right? Common guys, we should do something. It's not too late is it?
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:37 PM   #215
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There's got to be a petition to stop this right? Common guys, we should do something. It's not too late is it?
Instead of starting a useless petition how about you realize that it's just a damn movie.

A MOVIE WE STILL KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT!

For the love of christ
Bay is NOT directing or writing the movie.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:39 PM   #216
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You mean you don't know? People all over the internet are already making petitions. I'm wondering, did Bay wake up one day and say "Hey I got an idea we can use! Let's make the teenage mutant ninja turtles into the teenage ALIEN ninja turtles! People would just love it!" I'm still hoping that this is some bad joke because I want to see the turtles in the movies again. Because if it isn't, then I'm not laughing.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:42 PM   #217
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They can't honestly do any worse with the characters than Mirage themselves have at times. April and Rat King, anyone?
The only good post here.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:49 PM   #218
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There's got to be a petition to stop this right? Common guys, we should do something. It's not too late is it?
Just checked, there are numerous ones take your pick.
http://www.change.org/petitions/mich...es-terrestrial
http://www.change.org/petitions/mich...nts-not-aliens
http://www.change.org/petitions/prod...-ninja-turtles
http://www.change.org/petitions/sign...-ninja-turtles
http://www.change.org/petitions/mich...-ninja-turtles
http://www.change.org/petitions/one-...-remaking-tmnt
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/anti-bay/
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/t...liens-allowed/
http://www.change.org/petitions/sign...-ninja-turtles
http://www.change.org/petitions/do-n...es-into-aliens

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Old 03-19-2012, 06:55 PM   #219
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Each one more pointless than the last.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:57 PM   #220
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i'm staying positive being that it is still early. too be sure there are smarter folks in hollywood that will tell michael bay that making the turtles into aliens is a bad idea and his idea will get vetoed.
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