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Old 08-06-2019, 02:42 PM   #21
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There's a significant difference between refusing to get a job and just not being able to get one.


Talk about entitlement.
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Old 08-06-2019, 02:48 PM   #22
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He probably is waiting for "democratic socialism."
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Old 08-06-2019, 03:26 PM   #23
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This is pretty common. I wonder how high the percentage of people still living with their parents is in their late 20's or even early 30's. As I said before, in the 90's this was considered "abnormal" and you were either a loser with no life who lived in your parents basement, or had some serious mental illness that you were unable to live by your own and needed a caretaker.

Nowadays its mostly normal people who are just lazy slackers and don't want to get a job and support themselves. People just play videogames and watch things on TV and youtube all day.

Remember all the jokes in movies/tv shows from decades ago that would make fun of someone if they were still 18 living with their parents? Yikes, those jokes don't really work anymore.
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Old 08-06-2019, 03:57 PM   #24
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Yeah, agree with others, they REALLY need to cut that money off. If they allow him to remain living there and whatever until he's able to be on his own, that is up to them, but they really need to cut off that money flow. He is certainly too damn old for them to be giving him a $50 allowance. No wonder he's so comfy with the current situation.

I see nothing wrong with borrowing a parent's car now and then, but it aught to come at the price of having his own money to put gas in it to put back what he used.


Multi-generation households are becoming more common, and not just for reasons of laziness, so I can't fault any family that finds themselves like that or is fine with it. But it should not be because someone refuses to have any employment at all.

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and sometimes call me up to loan him money. Like around $10-20. If I don't give it to him, he lectures me on why my brother needs it
Why do they make such excuses for him? Has he always been labeled as the poor little boy who needs to be cared for and can't make it on his own and is now spoiled and entitled because of it?

That's just so out of line that your father does that to you and tries to force you to give him cash.


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He got a degree in Game Design but I'm not sure if he's looking for a job in his field.
I assume mom and dad also paid for that? Does he have ANY realization at all on how lucky he is to even have been able to get that? (What I wouldn't have given to have been able to; albeit with a focus more in animation, but still much the same.) And he's just going to sit around and waste it?

I got news for him... Sit around and wait for the industry and programs to advance too far ahead of what you're knowledgeable of and you've kinda shot yourself in the foot and wasted your time. What hiring manager is going to be impressed someday, many years from now, if you come to them with an understanding of Maya via a version that is old enough that some important things have changed? And some of these programs can be extraordinarily expensive, making it a little hard to keep up on the latest if you have no money to invest in that.

I understand real life is scary and competition in those areas of work is very strong, and even worse if you aren't lucky enough to live in a place where that kind of work is even common, and it's incredibly easy to get caught up in fearing that you just aren't good enough and hide from facing possible failure instead of risking it and making an attempt... But really, kid, don't waste it, at least not without trying.


My suggestion -- find at least a part time job to start with, something that will just simply get a paycheck and probably not in his field of study, then check out websites where people can sell 3D models and whatnot or those where artists and others can 'bid' on various freelance work people need done, and see about maybe trying to supplement the income with that. That might at least give him SOME work experience in general, as well as something for the resume related to that degree.
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Old 08-06-2019, 04:39 PM   #25
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I mean, at least from my experience in trying to find work in graphic design...I feel lied to when I was told it was an 'easy' field to get into.

Very, very lied to.


It's been two years of searching and applying. WTF.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:29 PM   #26
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Yeah, I have an Associates in Visual Communications/Multimedia (which was a wide assortment of subjects). While I never quite heard anyone say it was easy to get into, and they didn't hide that it's competitive, esp around here, some of my teachers did teach from an angle of encouraging people toward being self employed and/or a freelancer. "Easy" maybe to do it yourself if someone is the sort that's more capable of and good at doing the self employed thing. (Sadly, I personally am not.) Getting in with a company is a whole other game...
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:33 PM   #27
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Yeah, me too! Visual Communication in Design!


I can say that I'm not entirely comfortable freelancing yet, since I'm not very business-minded and feel really self-conscious about putting myself out there. I think partly because I'm already used to my regular art not getting much attention; why should I expect the same of professional?
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Old 11-09-2020, 05:03 PM   #28
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Just my luck! My Mom buys him a gaming PC as an early gift. Coincidentally at a time where I'm looking for a new computer myself. Not gonna lie, you can't help but feel a bit salty when you're the sibling that works for the things you want.

Sorry for reviving this thread.
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Old 11-09-2020, 06:07 PM   #29
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That stinks.

Yeah, kind of know that feeling in some way. The work thing was never an issue with my sister, but she was always the unspoken special one for whom there was always an excuse and able to get away with things I'd never nor even dare think to try doing.

What do they even get out of enabling your brother like that.
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Old 11-09-2020, 09:19 PM   #30
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Your brother is definitely spoiled. I was stayed at home after graduation due to not hard working during college. I learned basic Java for 3 months(not very effective and not handle the learning way correct, I was just do it my own and I am so new to programming), but still I was coding, eating and sleeping and some minor rest entertainment when tired.

I could say it is understandable if he felt not prepared and learning hard. But watching entertainment stuffs all day, that is so wrong. I was ashamed at that time asking parents for money, you brother just felt it natural, so your parents should change the way how they treated him. But it is easy to say than action. Hard situation.

Besides, how long this not working situation has happened?

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Old 11-10-2020, 05:06 AM   #31
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That stinks.

Yeah, kind of know that feeling in some way. The work thing was never an issue with my sister, but she was always the unspoken special one for whom there was always an excuse and able to get away with things I'd never nor even dare think to try doing.

What do they even get out of enabling your brother like that.
Absolutely nothing! Sorry about the favoritism towards your sister.

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Your brother is definitely spoiled. I was stayed at home after graduation due to not hard working during college. I learned basic Java for 3 months(not very effective and not handle the learning way correct, I was just do it my own and I am so new to programming), but still I was coding, eating and sleeping and some minor rest entertainment when tired.

I could say it is understandable if he felt not prepared and learning hard. But watching entertainment stuffs all day, that is so wrong. I was ashamed at that time asking parents for money, you brother just felt it natural, so your parents should change the way how they treated him. But it is easy to say than action. Hard situation.

Besides, how long this not working situation has happened?
Since a decade in 2010 when he graduated. He's very smart but not wise. I realize that he has nothing better to do in life now that he's finished school but I just find it so unfair that he's getting things for free. My mom was hoping for me to pay for his next haircut which she didn't bother asking how much it cost her ($40). He didn't want to go to a Barbershop close by our home which only chargers $10-12 for a haircut. I'm not gonna pay that much for him if he's going to be this spoiled.
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Old 11-10-2020, 02:09 PM   #32
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My mom was hoping for me to pay for his next haircut


Yeaaaaah.... if they want to baby him and enable his being unable to deal with real life himself, that's on them, but no way should you have to be pulled into and expected to do it too.

No shame in still sharing a roof with the parents these days, life is expensive out there... but come on, he should at least be paying for his own basic needs in life. They've got a rude awakening when they finally decide they're tired of it and largely have themselves to blame.


Is it just a coincidence they got him a new computer now, or did they run out and get it because knowing you're looking to get a new one they don't want him to feel jealous and left out when you do?
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A decade!!
Is there some way to send him to Army in American in such age?
In my country people sometimes do that.
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Yeaaaaah.... if they want to baby him and enable his being unable to deal with real life himself, that's on them, but no way should you have to be pulled into and expected to do it too.

No shame in still sharing a roof with the parents these days, life is expensive out there... but come on, he should at least be paying for his own basic needs in life. They've got a rude awakening when they finally decide they're tired of it and largely have themselves to blame.


Is it just a coincidence they got him a new computer now, or did they run out and get it because knowing you're looking to get a new one they don't want him to feel jealous and left out when you do?
I laughed at the Belle gif.

No, neither of them know that I need to get a new computer. It was actually pure coincidence, if you can believe it. Immediately afterwards, he borrows our Mom's car for a night without telling her.

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Is there some way to send him to Army in American in such age?
In my country people sometimes do that.
Truth be told, I'd be worried about him being in the army but I definitely get where you're coming from.
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Immediately afterwards, he borrows our Mom's car for a night without telling her.
Ah, and he's entitled on top of it. Yeah, that sounds familiar too.
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Old 11-12-2020, 10:27 PM   #36
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It doesn't help that she always shops for herself online so much to the point where she'll spend her money on $300 gifts for him regardless of whether he uses them or not. On top of that, I just got laid off from my job and she gets him a nice screen monitor to go with his PC. I don't say this often but sometimes....I hate my parents!
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Old 11-13-2020, 07:44 AM   #37
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Game Design is a tough field. I've been in motion design for years (a loosely related field) and I've found it's really beneficial to live in thriving areas of the industry such as LA, Chicago, New York, to really get the most out of your career as far as making connections and income. I'm happy to see that the wider acceptance of working from home in 2020 is opening more employers up to remote work, but that introduces a whole new set of challenges for a particular position, such as increased competition.
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Old 11-13-2020, 08:16 AM   #38
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Degree in game design as useful as social studies degree, which means not at all.

The best he can hope for is being janitor in McDonalds, without money or connections involved.

The best way to deal with people like this is to put them in condition where they have no choice, but to find a job.
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:32 PM   #39
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I mean... it's quite useful, IF someone lives where the opportunities are, or is capable of moving there, and has the talent enough to compete and get in the door somewhere.

Nothing wrong with wanting that, but sadly for most it isn't that simple and some other job is necessary in the meantime while keeping that on the side until if/when the dream job can become a full time or otherwise self supporting thing (or not and still have the other job to stick with). Because just sitting around refusing to do anything at all until the dream shows up on their doorstep isn't going to work out.

Not doing anything in the meantime just says you have a lack of ambition, and what if some game or otherwise 3D company is interested and see that... If they put that person on a project that doesn't interest them, is that person going to slack off or quit in the middle of it?
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