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Old 03-04-2019, 01:22 PM   #1
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Wishing death on people and celebrating their death

Some people have enemies or have people they absolutely hate and wish they just dropped dead. And there's occasions where someone's death, like Bin Laden's or Margaret Thatcher's, for instance, was celebrated by many people in USA and the UK, respectively.

What's your stance on this? I notice there's a big divide when it comes to this. A lot of people will just wish death upon criminals, some politicians and dictators. But many others just refuse to do that and think it's immoral to do that, let alone celebrate someone else's death.

Personally, I don't hate anyone to the point of wishing death on them, but can't say I shed a single tear when I heard about Fidel Castro dying, for example. Or Bin Laden. Or Saddam. Less bad people in the world is always a good thing, but eventually those bad people will be replaced by others who are just as bad or worse.

Celebrating death is just something I could never do. Hearing about someone dying is never a pleasant thing.

But, on the other hand, I think people should be honest with themselves and not be hypocritical. If someone you hate dies, no need to act all PC just to save face. Say whatever's in your heart at the time.

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Old 03-04-2019, 02:16 PM   #2
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Some people have enemies or have people they absolutely hate and wish they just dropped dead. And there's occasions where someone's death, like Bin Laden's or Margaret Thatcher's, for instance, was celebrated by many people in USA and the UK, respectively.
The street parties for Thatcher were generally considered to be in bad taste, even condemned by a former Prime Minister of a rival party.
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Old 03-04-2019, 03:46 PM   #3
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While I do not believe that it is good to get emotional over death on either extreme, I do agree with you that people should be honest with themselves regarding how they feel.

One example for me was my uncle, who was a drug addict who took advantage of my grandparents' kindness.

I did not like him as a person, and did not mourn at all when he was found dead in his apartment due to a drug overdose, because I always thought he was better off dead.
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Old 03-04-2019, 03:53 PM   #4
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when Mitch Mcconnell is 6 feet under I will be celebrating. He is a worthless spinless human being who has screwed the American People more times than I can count. I won't be PC about it
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Old 03-04-2019, 04:32 PM   #5
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when Mitch Mcconnell is 6 feet under I will be celebrating. He is a worthless spinless human being who has screwed the American People more times than I can count. I won't be PC about it
Amen to that.

Some people are an outright blight upon humanity, and when they go, there's no shame in feeling some relief or even joy.

When bin Laden got shot, I was thrilled. The guy was the definition of worthless. He orchestrated the murder of thousands of people, some of which were children, at the expense of his own comrades. Then he spent the rest of his life hiding from the war he started. The world is a far worse place today because of him. Good riddance.

No exaggeration: I cheered, then went outside and danced.
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I've never had a problem with it. I've been "fortunate" enough to know some extremely terrible people. My general philosophy is, if you're actively making life miserable for at least one other person - not accidentally or obliviously, but you are well aware that your actions are causing harm to other people and you simply don't give a sh*t - then you're taking up space and need to be taken off the board.

Example: When my parents split up, each of them picked horrible, worthless people as new partners. My mother chose a scumbag heroin addict who she'd been f*cking on the sly for a while; she wasn't big on the drug before that -she was typically a cocaine, alcohol and pill enthusiast - but once she was with him she became a full-blow addict and died within a year. In between keeping her doped up, he'd often get violent and abusive. The day she died, evidence suggests that he gave her the drugs, saw her overdose, panicked, went to work, came home early after about two or three hours, "found" her, and THEN called 911, by which point it was far too late.

It took everything I had not to end him after that, but I did tell him to his face, openly and repeatedly, "I can't wait for you to die." Which he did, eventually. I didn't get the full details, but at some point he dropped dead and I was glad.

My father made a similar mistake, and started tomcatting around with a rotating circle of crackheads and junkies. One of them physically attacked both me and my wife on numerous occasions, to which the police refused to intervene on the grounds of it happened in my father's apartment, and thus, "If he says it's okay then there's nothing we can do", which is bullsh*t but frankly, the cops were called to that place I don't know how many hundreds of times, I'm not surprised that at some point they just gave up. The final straw came one day when I was at work, and my wife was in our bedroom with the door locked, and Dad's girlfriend allegedly started banging on the door making threats. When my wife tried to go to the bathroom, the crazy bitch attacked her; they trashed the entire room, and at some point my wife managed to slash her across the face with a 13-inch ceremonial dagger, sending her to the hospital with stitches. I came home from work to discover all this; the cops did their job, but all the while were laughing about how "Somebody finally gave that crazy bitch what she deserved". We argued it down to a fine, but I told the bitch to her face, "If I was home and you pulled this sh*t, you probably wouldn't be standing here." She died a couple years later; again, I didn't get the full story, but I was glad.

There's been several others - so far, my track record is pretty good at this! - but those two always jump out at me whenever anyone asks this kind of thing. I forget who coined the phrase, but the truth is, "If you think there's good in everyone, you haven't MET 'everyone'."

I don't believe human life has an intrinsic value. I believe whatever value you have is earned through your actions, deeds, and intentions, and you can "win" or "lose" points as you go along. Some people are absolutely worthless; I don't think it makes anyone a bad person for wanting those people out of the way. They're doing no good on this Earth and are actively making life worse for many others.
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Old 03-04-2019, 04:38 PM   #7
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when Mitch Mcconnell is 6 feet under I will be celebrating. He is a worthless spinless human being who has screwed the American People more times than I can count. I won't be PC about it
The bad thing is..... He was probably an upgrade over John Boehner
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While I do not believe that it is good to get emotional over death on either extreme, I do agree with you that people should be honest with themselves regarding how they feel.

One example for me was my uncle, who was a drug addict who took advantage of my grandparents' kindness.

I did not like him as a person, and did not mourn at all when he was found dead in his apartment due to a drug overdose, because I always thought he was better off dead.
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I've never had a problem with it. I've been "fortunate" enough to know some extremely terrible people. My general philosophy is, if you're actively making life miserable for at least one other person - not accidentally or obliviously, but you are well aware that your actions are causing harm to other people and you simply don't give a sh*t - then you're taking up space and need to be taken off the board.

Example: When my parents split up, each of them picked horrible, worthless people as new partners. My mother chose a scumbag heroin addict who she'd been f*cking on the sly for a while; she wasn't big on the drug before that -she was typically a cocaine, alcohol and pill enthusiast - but once she was with him she became a full-blow addict and died within a year. In between keeping her doped up, he'd often get violent and abusive. The day she died, evidence suggests that he gave her the drugs, saw her overdose, panicked, went to work, came home early after about two or three hours, "found" her, and THEN called 911, by which point it was far too late.

It took everything I had not to end him after that, but I did tell him to his face, openly and repeatedly, "I can't wait for you to die." Which he did, eventually. I didn't get the full details, but at some point he dropped dead and I was glad.

My father made a similar mistake, and started tomcatting around with a rotating circle of crackheads and junkies. One of them physically attacked both me and my wife on numerous occasions, to which the police refused to intervene on the grounds of it happened in my father's apartment, and thus, "If he says it's okay then there's nothing we can do", which is bullsh*t but frankly, the cops were called to that place I don't know how many hundreds of times, I'm not surprised that at some point they just gave up. The final straw came one day when I was at work, and my wife was in our bedroom with the door locked, and Dad's girlfriend allegedly started banging on the door making threats. When my wife tried to go to the bathroom, the crazy bitch attacked her; they trashed the entire room, and at some point my wife managed to slash her across the face with a 13-inch ceremonial dagger, sending her to the hospital with stitches. I came home from work to discover all this; the cops did their job, but all the while were laughing about how "Somebody finally gave that crazy bitch what she deserved". We argued it down to a fine, but I told the bitch to her face, "If I was home and you pulled this sh*t, you probably wouldn't be standing here." She died a couple years later; again, I didn't get the full story, but I was glad.

There's been several others - so far, my track record is pretty good at this! - but those two always jump out at me whenever anyone asks this kind of thing. I forget who coined the phrase, but the truth is, "If you think there's good in everyone, you haven't MET 'everyone'."

I don't believe human life has an intrinsic value. I believe whatever value you have is earned through your actions, deeds, and intentions, and you can "win" or "lose" points as you go along. Some people are absolutely worthless; I don't think it makes anyone a bad person for wanting those people out of the way. They're doing no good on this Earth and are actively making life worse for many others.
I understand. I was fortunate enough not to have any abusive family members, so when some of my oldest relatives died I didn't feel relieved or happy about it. Didn't cry either, but that's because I simply wasn't that close to them or because they were already quite old and and unhealthy at the time they died, so it didn't come across as a shock/surprise.
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Old 03-05-2019, 10:17 AM   #9
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