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There were too many events crammed into one episode that it simply didn't do this episode any justice at all which became more evident when the Netherworld Invasion paled in comparison to previous invasions we've witnessed in the past, Shredder was egregiously underplayed, the Shredder cult were ill-involved during this entire conflict, and this episode overall only delivered lackluster fighting scenes at best.
Frankly, I was elated to watch this episode in the morning only to have been disillusioned with the pacing of this episode and how everything was seemingly slapped together at the last minute. For an episode of this scale, more was to be expected and they simply failed to deliver. Kavaxus is even stronger than Super Shredder yet I felt this entire Invasion paled in comparison to Season 1's. This episode was decent and while this will be a polarizing opinion, I honestly found this to be one of the worst episodes of this entire series. I will say that there were absolutely no issues with the plot, only the delivery and execution of everything that ensued. Had this been a 1 hour finale, then this likely would've been one of the best in the series.
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I'd appreciate if you don't go out of your way of ridiculing others simply because their opinion does not glorify Nick's series.
I found it to be one of the worst, but if you enjoyed it, then hats off to you.
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I agree that it's bizarre, since the crew continues to get better and better as the series continues, but this was an anomaly for me.
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Your loss then. Claiming the invasion isn't as big as the Kraang ones as a negative when it wasn't supposed to be, nor was that the focus of the episode, is indeed bizarre.
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It may not have been their focus, it significantly detracted from the experience because of it. It's not the only reason, but it is one of the reasons why I could not enjoy this episode as much as the rest.
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MC, what didn't you like about the episode; why do you consider it one of the worst? Curious as there hasn't been much negativity surrounding the episode outside its sporadic pacing.
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So a short invasion of ghosts popping up and the city splitting apart somehow distracted you from the rest of the episode? What did you think Kavaxas was going to do? If you think we needed another 2-3 episodes showing the Turtles fight off ghosts, then no, it wasn't necessary.
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[QUOTE=MCLeo28;1675291]I'd appreciate if you don't go out of your way of ridiculing others simply because their opinion does not glorify Nick's series.
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I understand what it's like to want to defend something you feel strongly about, but you don't need to jump on anyone with a differing opinion with no real argument outside of "it's bizzare that you feel that way." As for your reply to my post, you completely missed the point of every single thing I said. I never said the episode was "bare bones," that would be hypocritical as hell and shoot my argument right in the foot. I was saying what the plot at its simplest state is supposed to be to emphasize how f*cking crowded this episode is. I'd much rather see an explanation on Shredder's minions as well, and I was never complaining that it was there to begin with. My problem with it, which I felt I made very clear in my post, is how it was executed, and for what it's worth could've been in a different, less crowded episode. But if your idea of writing secondary characters in is "I'd much rather see them there than not there," I'd hate to see the end result. I'm just saying, you don't see Mr. Poopybutthole in every single episode of Rick & Morty, and there's a damn good reason for that. My problem with Splinter is -- HE'S DEAD. This show finally managed to kill Splinter and have him stay dead. Having him just be able to show up at the end of an episode four episodes after his death for everyone to see him (not just Leo, who, for all we know, could just be hallucinating) cheapens his death just a little. And am I seriously the only one who thinks it's ridiculous that, despite Kavaxas unleashing the UNDERWORLD, Splinter shows up despite his clear ascension into the skies at the end of the episode? That's simply inconsistent. The sentence "the purpose was to revive Shredder, of course he doesn't do anything" is so hypocritical I almost want to bother with it. All I'll say is we spent four episodes trying to revive the motherf*cking main villain of the show and he didn't do anything. I'm sorry, but that's simple bullsh*t.
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fits his appearance with the rest of the series.
he hardly got remembered at all in the krang years. the turtles barely faced him enough to even be considered real enemies... then all of a sudden krang get defeated, focus goes a little more on shredder, and he still doesn't really do all that much. he always seems like an after thought. |
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So much bickering
This episode should have been more spread out and more in depth , but I appreciate it for what it was. I found it fun and entertaining with many throw backs that were enjoyed.
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So, the invasion is to illustrate the consequences/stakes if the Turtles did not stop Kavaxus ... Er, okay. The same can be argued for the Kraang and the Triceratons, so what you claimed is immaterial and rather contradictory to what you're trying to prove.
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In some weird ways, Kavaxas gave me an OT Lord Dregg vibe, even more than Nick's version of Lord Dregg.
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