Does anyone else feel like IDW jumped the shark with issue 38?

Casey · 12-01-2014, 10:37 PM

I'm sorry but Mondo Gecko and Herman the Hermit Crab? Gimme a break. Those characters don't belong in this universe.

I'm sure this has been discussed in other threads, but I just had to get it off my chest.

*CyberCubed* · 12-01-2014, 11:04 PM

No, Old Hob constantly reminded us he was going to build a mutant army so its no surprise they're coming.

Since "The Mutanimals" are coming, it makes sense to see old favorites like Mondo Gecko returning. I also fully expect to see Man Ray and Wingnut/Screwloose as well, and we know Leatherhead is showing up.

*snake* · 12-01-2014, 11:12 PM

They have a place in my opinion, and they've proven themselves to be pretty damn cool.

*Powder* · 12-01-2014, 11:26 PM

How is it that they "don't belong"? There's always been a wacky assortment of aliens/mutants/etc. They made it clear the book was gonna be that way from the get-go, more or less, & there's a crap-ton of Fred Wolf influence in it. It balances things out by having just as many traditional ninja stories & otherworldly stuff. Everything is blended pretty well, so really, nothing is out of place in this series, as it is a mix of all things past.

Hob's army is awesome. Don't you dare knock Herman.

Tazi · 12-02-2014, 01:17 AM

Dunno, even Mirage had goofy stuff like that, it does belong to the frenchise, and IDW definitely not overdoing it, ithey're still far away from Nick Tmnt.

Joey Kamikaze · 12-02-2014, 02:23 AM

Mirage had a magic pencil that could create life, crossovers with everyone and their dogs, guest issues that read like drug trips, and the whole thing started as a Daredevil parody. So far IDW has been fairly grounded considering the source material...

And yeah, I've been looking forward to Hob's army for a while. This is a natural evolution of the story that was set up years ago in the run.

~~ChosenOne~~ · 12-02-2014, 03:30 AM

Nope. If anything, I was hoping for more new mutants in 38 to shake things up.

Tackleberr-- I mean, Herman, and Mondo are pretty damn awesome.

*Candy Kappa* · 12-02-2014, 03:36 AM

I feel they very much belongs in this universe. Hob have his resources and it's not far fetched as he wanted an army.

And they are beautifully designed.

*Plasticplayhouse* · 12-02-2014, 04:02 AM

Originally, a while back when there was some notion and a lot of speculation that the mutanimals were going to enter e story, I was against it. I'm not a fan of the original. However, Tom and crew pulled it off and very well so imo. I mean, could they end up going overboard? Maybe, but I think they will keep it somewhat controlled. These guys know what they're doing.

Herman is pretty frigin cool.

*ToTheNines* · 12-02-2014, 10:27 AM

They fit fairly well. I mean they're a little goofy, especially mondo wearing his Reptile Tendencies shirt lol.

Their unique personalities don't make a ton of sense, but my head-canon is that they're reincarnated humans. While they may or may not remember their past lives, the serum helps their old selves shine through.

*DrSpengler* · 12-02-2014, 10:40 AM

I, for one, take no issue with levity in my comics about anthropomorphic reptiles wearing robber masks who fight ninjas and monsters.

So no, I'm all good with "silly" mutants like Mondo Gecko and Herman the Hermit Crab.

funatic · 12-02-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

They fit fairly well. I mean they're a little goofy, especially mondo wearing his Reptile Tendencies shirt lol.

Their unique personalities don't make a ton of sense, but my head-canon is that they're reincarnated humans. While they may or may not remember their past lives, the serum helps their old selves shine through.

Hmm that's an interesting take, I might have to load it into my 'head-canon' as well because I was a little baffled how these brand new sentient animals suddenly had the urges to skateboard (let alone enough time to learn how to be good at it), and know military jargon without any military experience. Their costumes also suspend disbelief a bit. As you said, Mondo's shirts (which I love for their goofiness), are still out of place and kind of break the fourth wall, and how the heck did Herman get all that artillery into a dumpster?

I wonder if they'll address these potential past lives as humans at some point? It will give us a more solid explanation for their characters, but also make the turtles seem a little less special... Does that mean Hob & Slash were reincarnated too? On the contrary, their sentient animal selves are more well-rounded, and they wear street clothes or no clothes. They seem like "regular" animals-turned-humans, and it also falls in line with Hob's ANIMALS ONLY manifesto. Mutagen works in mysterious ways...

So yeah, I still love this series, love the new characters, and it definitely didn't jump the shark. But throwing in 2 new mutants in action-figure-esque costumes whose personalities are little more than stereotypes, maybe... just maybe... it jumped the flounder.

But like those have said before, it's Turtles—in the end, anything goes... and as long as its well written and pretty to look at, I'm on board!

Tazi · 12-02-2014, 10:56 AM

They jumped the shark with bludgeon (megalol)

funatic · 12-02-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tazi

They jumped the shark with bludgeon (megalol)

I was gonna say...

THE SHARK JUMPED US!

Mutant Ninja Anole · 12-02-2014, 11:03 AM

Hate to pile on, but the OP is pretty much the first person I've seen not like Mondo and Herman. It was actually one of my favorite recent issues.

*Redeemer* · 12-02-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutant Ninja Anole

Hate to pile on, but the OP is pretty much the first person I've seen not like Mondo and Herman. It was actually one of my favorite recent issues.

I am actually with Casey (OP) the book is getting crowded with all these mutants.
Love Herman best design of any of the new characters.

*snake* · 12-02-2014, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

I am actually with Casey (OP) the book is getting crowded with all these mutants.
Love Herman best design of any of the new characters.

Bobby or Tom said that the book won't be adding new characters for awhile. I can't remember the exact time he said.

*neatoman* · 12-02-2014, 01:52 PM

Mondo Gecko... Kind of sucks in concept to be honest, and Herman does feel too much like toy for a character who was not created to be a toy.

But I feel like they have not jumped the shark, Herman proved to be a quite charming character and Mondo at least had some cool powers this time around.

*CyberCubed* · 12-02-2014, 02:02 PM

If Man Ray shows up do you think IDW will still write him with Steve Murphy's personality? I wonder if IDW will have a "save the enviornment" issue with Man Ray pledging to stop polluting the oceans and saving the forests.

*neatoman* · 12-02-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

If Man Ray shows up do you think IDW will still write him with Steve Murphy's personality? I wonder if IDW will have a "save the enviornment" issue with Man Ray pledging to stop polluting the oceans and saving the forests.

Murphy was known for going a little overboard with the environmentalism, but is part of what defines Man Ray, soooooo.... Yeah?

12-01-2014, 10:37 PM	#1
Casey Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Brooklyn, NYC Posts: 583	Does anyone else feel like IDW jumped the shark with issue 38? I'm sorry but Mondo Gecko and Herman the Hermit Crab? Gimme a break. Those characters don't belong in this universe. I'm sure this has been discussed in other threads, but I just had to get it off my chest. __________________ GOONGALA!

12-01-2014, 11:26 PM	#4
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,809	How is it that they "don't belong"? There's always been a wacky assortment of aliens/mutants/etc. They made it clear the book was gonna be that way from the get-go, more or less, & there's a crap-ton of Fred Wolf influence in it. It balances things out by having just as many traditional ninja stories & otherworldly stuff. Everything is blended pretty well, so really, nothing is out of place in this series, as it is a mix of all things past. Hob's army is awesome. Don't you dare knock Herman. __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

12-02-2014, 01:17 AM	#5
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	Dunno, even Mirage had goofy stuff like that, it does belong to the frenchise, and IDW definitely not overdoing it, ithey're still far away from Nick Tmnt. __________________

12-02-2014, 03:36 AM	#8
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I feel they very much belongs in this universe. Hob have his resources and it's not far fetched as he wanted an army. And they are beautifully designed. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

12-02-2014, 04:02 AM	#9
Plasticplayhouse the gray ghost Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North East Posts: 2,194	Originally, a while back when there was some notion and a lot of speculation that the mutanimals were going to enter e story, I was against it. I'm not a fan of the original. However, Tom and crew pulled it off and very well so imo. I mean, could they end up going overboard? Maybe, but I think they will keep it somewhat controlled. These guys know what they're doing. Herman is pretty frigin cool. __________________ Want to see more of my custom figures? http://plasticplayhouse.deviantart.com/

12-01-2014, 11:04 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,041	No, Old Hob constantly reminded us he was going to build a mutant army so its no surprise they're coming. Since "The Mutanimals" are coming, it makes sense to see old favorites like Mondo Gecko returning. I also fully expect to see Man Ray and Wingnut/Screwloose as well, and we know Leatherhead is showing up.

12-01-2014, 11:12 PM	#3
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,230	They have a place in my opinion, and they've proven themselves to be pretty damn cool.

12-02-2014, 02:23 AM	#6
Joey Kamikaze Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 694	Mirage had a magic pencil that could create life, crossovers with everyone and their dogs, guest issues that read like drug trips, and the whole thing started as a Daredevil parody. So far IDW has been fairly grounded considering the source material... And yeah, I've been looking forward to Hob's army for a while. This is a natural evolution of the story that was set up years ago in the run.

12-02-2014, 03:30 AM	#7
~~ChosenOne~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,951	Nope. If anything, I was hoping for more new mutants in 38 to shake things up. Tackleberr-- I mean, Herman, and Mondo are pretty damn awesome.

12-02-2014, 10:27 AM	#10
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	They fit fairly well. I mean they're a little goofy, especially mondo wearing his Reptile Tendencies shirt lol. Their unique personalities don't make a ton of sense, but my head-canon is that they're reincarnated humans. While they may or may not remember their past lives, the serum helps their old selves shine through.

12-02-2014, 10:40 AM	#11
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,830	I, for one, take no issue with levity in my comics about anthropomorphic reptiles wearing robber masks who fight ninjas and monsters. So no, I'm all good with "silly" mutants like Mondo Gecko and Herman the Hermit Crab.

12-02-2014, 10:56 AM	#13
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	They jumped the shark with bludgeon (megalol) __________________

12-02-2014, 11:03 AM	#15
Mutant Ninja Anole Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: USA Posts: 591	Hate to pile on, but the OP is pretty much the first person I've seen not like Mondo and Herman. It was actually one of my favorite recent issues. __________________ My stupid Tumblr

12-02-2014, 02:02 PM	#19
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,041	If Man Ray shows up do you think IDW will still write him with Steve Murphy's personality? I wonder if IDW will have a "save the enviornment" issue with Man Ray pledging to stop polluting the oceans and saving the forests.