Ultimate TMNT Fan-Comic Needs Your Support! - Page 2

goodbadgeeky · 11-20-2014, 08:04 AM

Just showcasing an update. Still chugging along.

*Sabacooza* · 11-20-2014, 08:13 AM

I'm certainly keeping up with the comic. Beautiful work!

Birdman37 · 11-20-2014, 10:33 AM

I would def. get a physical copy of the book but good lord you have to pledge $25 a month for it? That is insanity.

goodbadgeeky · 11-20-2014, 12:44 PM

It seems excessive, but without talking specifics of Eryck and I's contract (which is bad form If I did) I will say this: it just didn't make sense financially to offer the book to patrons for anything lower than $12 a month for a full year (see: anyone who did not help contribute to paying for at least 3 pages of art).

That may hurt us cos it is costly, but at the same time, it's a chance we have to take.

And, maybe down the line I am open to "Add-Ons" or "One-Time Donations" , etc that will incorporate anyone who supports 1 page gets one book, etc. or maybe even just the book itself. I'm more concerned about book 2, 3, etc being able to be done though.

Birdman37 · 11-26-2014, 09:12 AM

Sorry to be a dick but that makes no sense to me... wouldnt it make MORE sense and you be MORE than likely to make money if you printed a certain amount of copies and just sold those? Even at a ridiculous price for the book, like $12 Im sure you would prolly make as much if not more. I mean really, how many people are going to be willing to pretty much give you $144 for a comic book... a fan book at that. Come on.

goodbadgeeky · 11-26-2014, 10:07 AM

I can only tell you why we’re doing it the way we’re doing it.

So generally as a whole, the art alone for UTMNT # 1 costs generally around $4,000.00. That is before the book gets even made. Making the book collectively, would prolly be around $9.00 for Issue #1 printing and shipping (US only) give or take. The point of the Patreon is to pay for the art of the book. At this rate, that means that yeah, you have a physical copy of UTMNT # 1 in your hands, but I’m outta luck, I can’t keep UTMNT going cos I can’t pay Eryck.

Paying for just the comic book alone, it comes down to you are robbing Peter to pay Paul. Or Stealing Pizza from Michelangelo and giving it to Leonardo. Or whatever works for you here.

So the reality is… this physical comic book is bonus. You are donating to me so I can then in-turn just give it right back and pay Eryck for the art work. The physical comic book is bonus.

But again, I see your viewpoint as well. I really don’t see it as you describe, with you being a d*ck. You just don’t find it practical, and I am not going to change your mind on that (and vice versa), which is fine.

And if others agree with you, that too, is also fine. All I ask at the end of the day is that if you don't dig the comic thats okay, but if you DO dig the story and comic as a whole, spread the word. In your case, (I am making the assumption) that since you do not dig what is offered on patreon then only share the comic url link (not the patreon) with others. Or if you feel inclined, share both, or, don’t do either.

*Powder* · 11-26-2014, 10:18 AM

4 G's? The guy's work is cool & all but no-where near the asking price in quality. You could literally hire a former Mirage Studios artist for that or less, & they made the TMNT popular!
I mean, sheesh, you're not even coming out of it with any original art to collect/re-sell, it's just digital pages (as far as I can tell).

*Plasticplayhouse* · 11-27-2014, 10:57 AM

the art is very nice and I am a firm believer that an artist can ask what they feel is fair for their hard work and dedication, but I'm with powder when it comes to cost vs gain, $4k could have likely gotten you mike dooney for an issue...jim Lawson/dan berger for sure. maybe even ross Campbell.

anyways, I wish you the best with this comic. it does look like it's going to be very cool!

goodbadgeeky · 11-28-2014, 07:26 AM

On a whim back in 2011, I did speak to a Mirage artist at the beginning when I was cooking this up and looking at my options and when I inquired, I was given a price higher than $100.00 for a page. Which is perfectly fine, he deserves, as does Eryck, fair $$ for their time and craft as you stated.

BUT...

If I take the amount that was given to me for Issue # 1 by Lawson, I would be paying around $6,500 - $7,800+. So I don't see how $6,500 - $7,800 is better than $4k. But hey, that's just me.

Plus, I am beyond proud of Eryck and glad that I ended with him. And I wouldn't change it for anything.

11-26-2014, 10:07 AM	#26
goodbadgeeky Random Punk Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 41	I can only tell you why we’re doing it the way we’re doing it. So generally as a whole, the art alone for UTMNT # 1 costs generally around $4,000.00. That is before the book gets even made. Making the book collectively, would prolly be around $9.00 for Issue #1 printing and shipping (US only) give or take. The point of the Patreon is to pay for the art of the book. At this rate, that means that yeah, you have a physical copy of UTMNT # 1 in your hands, but I’m outta luck, I can’t keep UTMNT going cos I can’t pay Eryck. Paying for just the comic book alone, it comes down to you are robbing Peter to pay Paul. Or Stealing Pizza from Michelangelo and giving it to Leonardo. Or whatever works for you here. So the reality is… this physical comic book is bonus. You are donating to me so I can then in-turn just give it right back and pay Eryck for the art work. The physical comic book is bonus. But again, I see your viewpoint as well. I really don’t see it as you describe, with you being a dck. You just don’t find it practical, and I am not going to change your mind on that (and vice versa), which is fine. And if others agree with you, that too, is also fine. All I ask at the end of the day is that if you don't dig the comic thats okay, but if you DO dig the story and comic as a whole, spread the word. In your case, (I am making the assumption) that since you do not dig what is offered on patreon then only share the comic url link (not the patreon) with others. Or if you feel inclined, share both, or, don’t do either. Last edited by goodbadgeeky; 11-26-2014 at 10:10 AM. Reason: typos, typos.... everywhere.*

11-26-2014, 10:18 AM	#27
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,808	4 G's? The guy's work is cool & all but no-where near the asking price in quality. You could literally hire a former Mirage Studios artist for that or less, & they made the TMNT popular! I mean, sheesh, you're not even coming out of it with any original art to collect/re-sell, it's just digital pages (as far as I can tell). __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

11-27-2014, 10:57 AM	#28
Plasticplayhouse the gray ghost Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: North East Posts: 2,194	the art is very nice and I am a firm believer that an artist can ask what they feel is fair for their hard work and dedication, but I'm with powder when it comes to cost vs gain, $4k could have likely gotten you mike dooney for an issue...jim Lawson/dan berger for sure. maybe even ross Campbell. anyways, I wish you the best with this comic. it does look like it's going to be very cool! __________________ Want to see more of my custom figures? http://plasticplayhouse.deviantart.com/

11-28-2014, 07:26 AM	#29
goodbadgeeky Random Punk Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 41	On a whim back in 2011, I did speak to a Mirage artist at the beginning when I was cooking this up and looking at my options and when I inquired, I was given a price higher than $100.00 for a page. Which is perfectly fine, he deserves, as does Eryck, fair $$ for their time and craft as you stated. BUT... If I take the amount that was given to me for Issue # 1 by Lawson, I would be paying around $6,500 - $7,800+. So I don't see how $6,500 - $7,800 is better than $4k. But hey, that's just me. Plus, I am beyond proud of Eryck and glad that I ended with him. And I wouldn't change it for anything. Last edited by goodbadgeeky; 11-28-2014 at 07:28 AM. Reason: I does math poorly.

11-20-2014, 08:04 AM	#21
goodbadgeeky Random Punk Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 41	Just showcasing an update. Still chugging along.

11-20-2014, 08:13 AM	#22
Sabacooza Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,986	I'm certainly keeping up with the comic. Beautiful work!

11-20-2014, 10:33 AM	#23
Birdman37 Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 42	I would def. get a physical copy of the book but good lord you have to pledge $25 a month for it? That is insanity.

11-20-2014, 12:44 PM	#24
goodbadgeeky Random Punk Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 41	It seems excessive, but without talking specifics of Eryck and I's contract (which is bad form If I did) I will say this: it just didn't make sense financially to offer the book to patrons for anything lower than $12 a month for a full year (see: anyone who did not help contribute to paying for at least 3 pages of art). That may hurt us cos it is costly, but at the same time, it's a chance we have to take. And, maybe down the line I am open to "Add-Ons" or "One-Time Donations" , etc that will incorporate anyone who supports 1 page gets one book, etc. or maybe even just the book itself. I'm more concerned about book 2, 3, etc being able to be done though.

11-26-2014, 09:12 AM	#25
Birdman37 Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 42	Sorry to be a dick but that makes no sense to me... wouldnt it make MORE sense and you be MORE than likely to make money if you printed a certain amount of copies and just sold those? Even at a ridiculous price for the book, like $12 Im sure you would prolly make as much if not more. I mean really, how many people are going to be willing to pretty much give you $144 for a comic book... a fan book at that. Come on.