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Old 11-28-2016, 03:04 PM   #261
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Well considering this thread got bumped it may be a good place to say it.

Unfortunately, April's inspiration, a woman of color by the same name that Eastman was in a relationship with around the time of TMNT's creation, passed away two days ago. I caught wind of it from Mark Bode's Facebook. Everyone said she was wonderfully sweet & beautiful. RIP
I just went to Bode's Facebook page and didn't find any mention of this. Citation needed.
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It was definitely not a kid's book.
That was the thing that always mystified me about the turn the franchise took when Eastman and Laird licensed the cartoon and the parallel comic book published by the same outfit that gave us Archie. The turtles' original origin story? The whole thing hinges on a for-Christ's-sake rape-murder!!!!
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:11 PM   #262
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I did the same thing, but assumed this info was under a Friends' Lock, and since I'm not friends with the guy, I couldn't see it.
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Old 11-28-2016, 04:06 PM   #263
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Weird, seems he took the post down. A bunch of supposed turtle fans were asking for an explanation on who she was, that probably made him remove it so as not to make spectacle of it. But it was the piece of art below (which I had saved because I figured it was tied to the character's origin on some level, I think it's supposed to be the actual April herself), accompanied by a bit of text saying rest in piece to April something from somewhere (so sorry I can't remember these details) who was the original inspiration for April O'neil, & so on. They were talking about her giving away/selling off her art collection over the last year or so in the comments.

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Old 11-28-2016, 04:51 PM   #264
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Ha! Well, that pic certainly goes a long way in explaining the 80s hairstyle in the comics! Clearly, Eastman & Laird had very different interpretations of what the character should be over the years.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:40 AM   #265
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I really like her hair in the comics and after reading them I think of her as being mixed race. It's sad to hear about the woman who inspired her though.

(Although the other interpretations are nice too).
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:49 PM   #266
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Bumping this thread since it has featured talk of the actual human being that inspired her creation, & how she may or may not have been black herself. Finally got a photo of her, the "REAL" April O'neil. Here she is (wearing grey).

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The pic is courtesy Mark Bode, from the London premier of the original TMNT film. From Left- Molly Bode, Mark Bode, April (last name not given), Kevin Eastman, mother of the film's writer Paul Jenkins, Paul Jenkins, Eric Talbot.

Seems she may have been mixed? Not sure, but a pretty woman all the same.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:52 PM   #267
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That is SO cool. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:02 PM   #268
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Also, reading through this really made me miss my Man Commenter. *pours one out*
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:52 PM   #269
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It's hard to tell since the photo is so old or blurry, but her skin doesn't look much darker than anyone else in that pic.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:25 PM   #270
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It's hard to tell since the photo is so old or blurry, but her skin doesn't look much darker than anyone else in that pic.
Not quite "black enough" for you?

I agree, this is very interesting. It could be one of those things where it was based on her and... huge heartbreak, Laird was sensitive to it, and Laird doesn't want to talk about it out of respect for Eastman. We definitely know that Eastman has a penchant for drawing his current significant other into whatever he happens to be doing at the moment... even now.
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Old 08-31-2017, 12:04 AM   #271
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It's awesome that Mark Bode was also to shed some more light on this subject.
Maybe someday we'll get the full scoop.
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Old 08-31-2017, 01:12 AM   #272
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Anybody else remember that the credits of Mirage Vol. 1, #32 give thanks to "April and Molly?"
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Old 11-02-2017, 11:47 AM   #273
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Looks like some of you got your wish.
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Looks like some of you got your wish.
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:03 PM   #275
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People who wanted black April got their wish.
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:04 PM   #276
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I was thinking of this thread when I saw Black April was being voiced by a black woman and thought they would make her black in the new show only to read a few moments later in another article that she was black.

Let's see how it goes, I think if she's interesting and look like early mirage april I'd love her. If they made her black just for diversity it'll be a shame, especially since its just another instance of red headed characters becoming black, pure Irish get no representation in media now.
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:18 PM   #277
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People who wanted black April got their wish.
I didn't initally come across that thread, now I get it. I would prefer seeing the actual design though, I'm honestly not sure if they mean that the character is black or just that the actor is.
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:22 PM   #278
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The other thing to take into account is April's last name, O'neil is an Irish surname, they could make her a half black half irish american.
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The other thing to take into account is April's last name, O'neil is an Irish surname, they could make her a half black half irish american.
Should I really have to explain why it's not necessary to justify African-Americans with English/Irish names? Because I really don't want to open up that can of worms on the internet.
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Pure Irish aren't all redheads, as the trait is recessive, and requires an individual to be homozygous for it to express phenotypically.

Nor is everyone with the last name O'Neil necessarily Irish, or of Irish ancestry.
Especially in America.
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