03-21-2017, 04:10 PM | #81 |
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The biggest missed opportunity for me was Tiger Claw's potential character arc. I know I wasn't the only one seeing foreshadowing for Tiger Claw betraying Shredder starting at the end of Season 2. It was one of the only parts of Season 3 that got me somewhat excited.
Think of it, starting with Vengeance is Mine, where Tiger Claw is in disbelief that Shredder would put his own daughter's life on the line in the name of revenge ("You are more ruthless than I thought... mutating your own cub..!"), and then talking back, defying Shredder even, after Karai is mutated. You don't see him again until the opening scene of The Invasion, where we get another sign of Shredder's increased obsession and even insanity ("Nor do I (care for the human race)"). In the same scene, we see Tiger Claw thinking outwardly once again. As the show continued, we saw relatively little of Tiger Claw in Season 3, but his two biggest roles certainly continued this trend. In Return to New York, he questioned Shredder as to why their alliance with The Kraang continued after their enemies were defeated, and in a rather alarmed tone. Finally, in Annihilation: Earth, after Shredder killed Splinter in favor of saving the world from being sucked into a black hole, Tiger Claw blatantly calls him out on it ("Shredder! What have you done?!"). Now, obviously, because of the way the series played out, those final events of Annihilation: Earth didn't even happen, and so Tiger Claw being pushed to the edge at that point didn't really happen. But all the foreshadowing before was still there. I could just be seeing things that aren't there, but this sounds a lot like foreshadowing a plotline where Tiger Claw gradually realizes Shredder's increasing obsession and insanity and betrays/leaves him, still, however, an enemy of the Turtles. But clearly, in Season 4, he acted more like a mindless servant to Shredder and in Season 5 is trying to bring him back from the dead. Completely missed potential for a great plotline that could've made Tiger Claw an especially unforgettable character. Also, unpopular opinion that really is just a nitpick, but they missed out on the opportunity to recast Leo as ANYONE but Seth Green.
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As for Baxter he really seemed to develop Stockholm Syndrome...or should I say, "Stockman" Syndrome? *dodges rotten fruit being thrown * |
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Oh I got one. The bigger of the 3 Purple Dragons name is Sid. I thought they were gonna have him be Casey's infamous cousin from the comics. But they didn't.
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03-23-2017, 05:43 PM | #86 |
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So Casey is part asian?
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No, but Sid could have been half.
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It's a real shame that the Archie series is so overlooked. I'd say it defined the "classic era" of TMNT just as much as the Mirage comics and FW show. I mean think about all the classic characters, concepts, and images that are iconic to the franchise as a whole, but either didn't exist or barely existed in either Mirage or FW. Man Ray, Wingnut and Screwloose, Stump Wrestling costumes, Maligna, The Turnstone, Cudley, to name a few. I mean Mirage was the original source material, but back then it was always kept separate from the rest of the franchise (I guess to keep it "pure" of cartoon influence). And, FW was the best known, but only because TV shows simply reach more people than comic books, and the Mirage crew didn't play that big a part in it. But, judging by how much all the magazine comics, newspaper strips, and website character profiles took their cues from Archie, it seems like that was the "main" continuity for the "kid's toy franchise" side of TMNT. Anyway, I also wish the nick show could have put the mutants and aliens aside more often and had more "down to earth" urban martial arts storylines. And, I wish they kept the foot clan human longer instead of letting it all turn to mutants and robots. |
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03-25-2017, 11:32 AM | #89 |
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I don't want to spoil anything, but it seems like Tiger Claw and Fishface are getting development in this season.
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03-29-2017, 06:51 AM | #90 |
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Here's a one I thought about while re-watching the Super Shredder storyarc.
WARNING: Major spoilers... and not just for this show. What if instead of Splinter dying from being stabbed by Shredder exactly the same way it happened at the end of season 3, Splinter died of heart failure or being over stressed from the fight? I know it's cliche, but I feel like it would've made a lot more sense. Plus hey it worked in this iconic scene from Smallville: Of course they would've had to established throughout the show that Splinter was having similar health issues as it was with Jonathan Kent.
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I would have loved it if the foot elite ninjas were not robots.
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Though I would have loved to have seen an Archie/Mirage crossover at one point. That was even the plan once, Laird had some covers from it he posted a long while back. Another missed opportunity.
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05-05-2017, 05:34 AM | #94 |
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After re-watching the four seasons of TMNT 2012, my biggest gripe is that something went wrong after all the Season 1 writers left.. No offence to Brandon Auman and other writers, but outside of episodes written by Nicole Dubac, Christopher Yost, and Greg Weisman, some of the episodes felt too episodic and less connected to a main plot, and if it did something felt missing.
I'd have loved for the following plot-lines to have been explored: 1) More mystery to April's Mother and the family's connection to the Kraang. 2) More episodes focused on Rahzar and Fishface, who just seemed to vanish pass Season 2. 3) Tiger Claw's backstory should have been explored sooner, and his loyalty to the Shredder should have been tested in Season 4, especially considering his disgust in Saki killing Splinter and dooming everyone. 4) The Mighty Mutanimals should have been introduced sooner in my opinion; I think the events of "Metalhead Rewired" in Season 2 would have been the perfect introduction to the team (as most of them were kidnapped by the Kraang). Plus, Mutagen Man should join the team (I mean, they're not doing anything with him). 5) Certain Story arcs, such as Karai's Mutation, Northampton, and Turtles in Space went on for too long and should have been shortened down. 6) Less homages to past characters in other series; I was cool with Bebop and Rocksteady, the Mutanimals and Muckman I was cool with... but the Punk Frogs, Shredder Mutants, Neutrinos, Wingnut and Screwloose served no purpose but to just say "Remember these characters". |
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Its kinda weird that during seasons 1 & 2 April's backstory was treated as this big thing but after the Northampton arc the writers just forgot about it and instead gave April new powers.
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05-05-2017, 07:48 PM | #96 |
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April's powers were literally the result of that backstory. It's been a while since I've watched those episodes so I may not be remembering everything, but I'm pretty sure the first time she used her powers it was directly related to her Kraang backstory.
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05-05-2017, 09:08 PM | #97 |
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As far as I know, Aprils backstory was fully explained. The only thing we haven't seen is her real mother who was missing since the beginning of the series.
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05-06-2017, 03:18 AM | #98 | |
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The way Kurtzman told the story is that April's mother was experimented on before April herself was born. It's unclear if this was while April was in utero or before she was conceived. Mom thing explained that a Kraang ship had crashed in the Northampton area and April's maternal great grandfather built a house on top of it and later found said ship. The Kraang then proceeded to experiment on him and his children and their descendants because they realized they had the DNA strand needed to take over the Earth. When April was born, her mother knew April would be special. She and Kirby went to great efforts to protect April from the Kraang. Eventually, they were found and during the escape, April's mother was supposedly captured and possibly killed. It could always be possible that April's mother never existed. There is a theory in another thread about this possibility. Before I go into this headcanon, I do know there is a photo of a woman who is supposedly April's mother. When they were being abducted during "Rise of the Turtles" Kirby doesn't seem all that surprised about what's going on. Kirby also doesn't look like he is suffering all that much while in the Kraang prison facility. I know it's a kids show, but a human in those conditions would be pale, gaunt and rather unkempt. It's also rather odd the Kraang would keep Kirby alive when the Kraang didn't really need him. Once they had April and Kirby, Kirby easily could have been killed off because he wasn't needed. Even when April was rescued the Kraang didn't seem to have much reason to keep Kirby alive. Also, it's mentioned in "Rise of the Turtles" that the Kraang were kidnapping scientists all over the city, and we never see any of them. In TCRI April's father is a psychologist, which is pointed out as being odd since the Kraang were trying to perfect the Mutagen. And that's where it is revealed that they weren't after Kirby, they were after April. So what if Kirby originally worked for the Kraang. Kirby could have been partnered with a nameless female scientist creating a human/kraang hybrid. In other words a test tube baby, it is possible the memories of her mother are implanted. Or April just generally assumed this woman was her mother. Kirby being a psychologist would study thought and behavior. So while some of his DNA could have been used in April's creation, his main job was to oversee and monitor her until she was ready to be delivered to the Kraang. Since he would have some training in medicine, he could prevent people from learning that April wasn't human by forging medical information for when she entered school or went to summer camp or something like that. Over the course of looking after her, he may have developed honest paternal feelings for April. Either that or the female person that Kirby is partnered with may begun seeing April as her daugher and learns the Kraang's purpose for creating her. She then wants to protect April at all cost and convinces Kirby to help her. |
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An international travel arc on Earth would be great!
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