09-23-2013, 07:21 PM | #21 |
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It'll never happen for the following reasons:
1) Nick doesn't want kids picking this up accidentally in the DVD section in a store where it'll have blood and killing. 2) Turtles will have all red bandanas, confusing kids 3) DTV movies are expensive. WB spends a fortune putting out those DC animated movies every 6 months. I doubt a Turtle on would even sell. 4) Without Peter Laird around, I doubt anyone would even influence Nick enough to get this project off the ground. |
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It's the best of all TMNT. If given the chance, that's the story I'd do, in a heartbeat. Just my 2 cents. |
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09-23-2013, 10:40 PM | #23 | |
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So here is you're view of the story, edited into how I see the comic, and what it could be: It is the story of a man, consumed by vengeance. He knowingly adopts innocent children, training them from "birth" to be deadly assassinsfor over 15 years. His only one goal: Kill my masters enemy. The Children, who have been sheltered from the world their entire lives, and are still just "boy's", can't possibly understand what is being asked of them. Without hesitation, they blindly attack their fathers enemy. As the story unfolds, it becomes clear that, the revenge their father seeks may not be justified. In the end, the children have have blood on their hands, and with their innocence lost, are left with more questions than answers. So far it sounds great to me. Not a happy ending, and not a Fred Wolf story, but interesting man vs nature vs himself. The Turtles in this story aren't interested in saving the world, or helping people. They are children who don't know the consequences of their actions, and that I think is as relevant now as it was when it was written. Last edited by Commenter 42; 09-23-2013 at 10:47 PM. |
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09-23-2013, 11:38 PM | #24 |
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I see your point, but I don't think Nick sees it that way. Nick would rather try to avoid getting the ongoing series and a Mirage based movie mixed up. Also, their take on the turtles seems a little more mild, as Splinter tries to avoid Shredder, not putting up a fight. But I would still love to see a Mirage-styled movie. |
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it would be awesome!
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I think if this would happen, then City at War would be the best option to adapt.
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They need to make back 60 million, and a hard R turtles film, as I've just described, would have parent groups up in arms. But hell yes, it would be epic, if done right. |
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That's assuming a TMNT #1 adaptation would be in color, though, which isn't really a given. One could argue that being black and white is an essential part of that first issue's aesthetic--Turtles Forever certainly thought so--and that making an adaptation in color would be just as point-missing as...well, giving them multi-colored bandannas.
Which is the point I'm making, in the end. If the point is to get the Mirage book as it is, into film, you end up with a film that no one but diehards will appreciate. On the other hand, if the idea is to make an awesome film that is based on the story outlined in that issue and takes full advantage of the new medium, then any translation would involve a lot of changes, additions and alterations, raising the question of just how many alterations y'all are willing to take. Quote:
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2) I'm sure those who are puzzled by this matter will look it up on the internet. 3) So does Marvel. With all do respect, this answer sort of contradicts your confusing kids explanation. If a TMNT film won't sell then there would no one, not even kids, who'd want to buy it. 4) This is where I feel that the Ninja Turtles community should speak up their piece to Viacom on this matter. |
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Second movie about Return to New York. Third movie about City at War. Seems a no-brainer to me. The #1 adaptation didn't happen because Peter Laird said that Gary Richardson talked him out of it at the last minute and it'll never happen now because while Nickelodeon is more or less OK with re-releasing old Mirage material via IDW, actually producing brand new Mirage or Mirage-esque material does not appear to be any part of their game plan whatsoever.
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EDIT: Anyone else find it ironic the one vote against a Mirage styled movie is called Source Material?
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My view is simply that Vol1#1 was the story. Everything written after that was an attempt to build on that story, extrapolate from it new ideas, etc. But it Is written as a single short story, without the foresight of what it would become. To me, it's like an episode of the Twilight Zone. A strange story of natures revenge against man. maybe you are correct that certain elements may need to be teased out, but that comes with the territory of transitioning media from one form to the next. |
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I'd be all over this dvd. totally game for this idea
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I would love for them to make TMNT comic based DVD's ala Blade.
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The problem with the truncated, all-Foot, all-the-time structure, as it has always been, is that we need to actually meet and learn about these characters to care about what happens to them at all in "Return to New York" and "City at War." Not to say the least about Casey and April, and how paltry the last arc would feel without their presence. The importance of the time away at Northampton, along with several of the guest-artist era stories, really can't be overstated. The sequence of adaptations above is a perfect recipe if you just want some "bang, smash" action and something reasonably approximating the source material, a la most of DC's animated video offerings. But if that's the route we're talking, I'd rather just never see the project come to light. Quote:
It's not only the idea of a "man" sending his adopted children out to complete his blood feud. It's the extra layer of his being a rat, something with so myopic a world-view before his mutation and so capable of misunderstanding and abusing the credos he lives by, that makes the story that much more interesting. And that's an idea not played on until Zulli's out-of-continuity "Soul's Winter," and subsequently "City at War" and several Tales Vol. 2 entries. Anyway, for this and all the other reasons you've stated, I've always felt the perfect start for any Mirage adaptation would actually be immediately after the Turtles have killed the Shredder. That's where the story really begins; he's just the prologue. He's the pre-music James Bond intro sequence. Last edited by Cipher; 10-05-2013 at 04:58 PM. |
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