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09-14-2017, 07:52 PM | #142 |
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Yeah, but I mean even when they were on their own, like when they were in the TCRI elevator or by themselves. Rocksteady going "True dat" and Bebop saying funny slang, Rocksteady thinking of Mother Russia, etc.
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09-14-2017, 07:54 PM | #143 |
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I think we can all agree these were Nick Bebop and Rocksteadys best episodes in the series.
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09-14-2017, 09:26 PM | #144 |
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This episode also revealed a bit more closure for the show and it's characters:
- It's interesting to see the EPF take over the TCRI building and confiscate all the Kraang tech. Was this the first episode they showed this or was this already in a previous episode? I don't remember. Also kind of weird the EPF were here but no Bishop, I guess they couldn't have too many voice actors. - Also it's interesting the last appearance of present Casey is his ribs getting cracked. Maybe he eventually retires from fighting even before the timeskip. - Karai and Shinigami were shown patrolling the streets taking down crime with the Foot. I also don't think this was shown before unless I'm forgetting something. I guess if Fishface ever causes trouble again he would be taken down by them - Traag and Granitor are now dead with their bodies blown up. From what I remember their last appearances just showed them drifting in Dimension X. - Mutagen Man's whole body was shown in the background while Don was bored in the first ep and kicked his chair back. The writers likely showed that part intentionally. - Leonardo is still trying to meditate like Splinter and get more in touch with nature. |
09-14-2017, 10:02 PM | #145 |
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Not to mention the perfect the perfect closure for the 80s Turtles, Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady in both the Nick show and as a whole.
I can't see them appearing anymore (especially with the original VAs) in the future, except for maybe in shorts but not in any show or movie. 30 years ago in 1987 we had the 1st episode with these characters, and today they all go out with a bang! |
09-14-2017, 10:07 PM | #146 |
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Yeah, this might be it for them. I don't think the 2018 show will do crossovers. There might be a small chance we have an entire original cartoon special made by Nick focusing only on the 80's Turtles, but that's probably not too likely either. Still they've gotten better at the 2D animated scenes and they could make a whole special like that if they wanted to in the future.
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09-14-2017, 10:22 PM | #147 |
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Which Raph throws his sai at Shredder's com screen when the knuckleheads attack? And is that Mikey's voice coming out of Raph in that same scene? Think it's an intentional goof?
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09-14-2017, 10:26 PM | #148 |
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Im pretty sure its 80s Raph since he then says "See, Cool but Rude" in Mikeys voice. That was no doubt intentional.
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09-14-2017, 10:28 PM | #149 |
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I'm impressed that Rob Paulsen made his Raphael voice different than his Donatello voice in the episode. He could have gone the cheap and easy route by just talking as Don, but no his Raph voice sounded like his old 80's Raph. He talks much higher pitched and faster as Don.
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I would have hoped that maybe one of the FW turtles asked "Hey, is your Splinter on sabbatical or something?" Because that's what they said when Splinter conveniently was not in the episode during the FW show. And the Nick turtles response could be Donnie: No...he Leo: Our Splinter was.... Raph: He was murdered... **FW Turtles Gasp or make shocked sounding noises** Raph: By our version of the Shredder. Leo: It's just been the four of us eversince. Mikey: Well the four of us, April, Casey, Ice Cream Kitty...oh and the mutanimals. |
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09-15-2017, 05:11 AM | #151 |
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Well, that's arguable. From one point of view, we've seen Traag reconstruct his body more than once in S1, BUT he didn't have his eyes being open when his head flew into the portal. That might mean that he's done but I wouldn't bet on that.
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09-15-2017, 05:36 AM | #152 |
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where can I watch this?
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09-16-2017, 01:55 AM | #154 |
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It's interesting seeing the different reactions from the Original TMNT fans, some of you seem to think they mostly captured them and others think they were way off, in terms of fighting skills etc.
How many of you who haven't watched them in recent years have gone back and re-watched them since this? As for the training, I was just under the impression that Nick was darker so what they were going up against was too? is that wrong? 2012 Shredder didn't appear in either crossover (obviously dead by this one) Did any of you want to see the two together or would it just have been pointless? I liked the 80's movies props in this, this arc was not made for today's kids I was surprised at actually seeing Casey's rib break. When I saw the title 'The Foot Walks Again' I assumed it was because Shredder and Kraang teamed up with Beebop and Rocksteady, instead it turned out that Karai got to lead it after all, I guess that is her end tied up. |
09-16-2017, 05:16 AM | #155 |
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The humour around the 80s turtles was very self aware because obviously alot of the fighting and violence jokes were aimed at the fact that they had to tone down the violence for the original toon after the first season because either parents complaining or whatever telling them to tone it back.
there was some exaggeration like Leonardo shouting turtle power while they were captured and giving themselves away or the fact the turtles couldn't fight at all when training but for the most part i thought it was fun. |
09-16-2017, 08:37 AM | #156 |
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Those mini-rock soldiers from Dimension X looked like enemies from some Mario videogame.
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09-16-2017, 10:22 AM | #157 |
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I thought the FW turtles were fairly spot on. The OT was always a goofy show. While they did have serious moments and episodes. There were still some plots on the enemy side that would still result in a five-year-old sing-songingly saying "It's not going to work!" And even hero plot lines that just didn't make sense logically. But it was the 1980's and 90's that was more or less a time where logic does go out the window quite a few times in the attempt to tell a good story.
Such as one episode Raphael learned he was going to die because of a defective health monitor thing that Donatello created. So he goes out as a character called the "GREEN DEFENDER" to do what good he can before he kicks the bucket. And then couple that with a villain plot centering on a guy who wants to destroy the world because the lily he was cultivating wasn't named after him. Another plotline (I believe this was one of the space stories they had) had Donatello trying to defuse a bomb. Raphael is telling him to cut the red wire because he's the meta guy of the group. "Cut the red wire, it's always the red wire." Instead, Donatello cuts the purple wire which conveniently shuts down the bomb and when asked how he knew it was the purple wire, he just says it's the same color of his eye mask. The OT Turtles are always meant to be hoaky when compared to their more serious counterparts. Because their era forced them to be more comedic and child-friendly so naturally the physical logic in their universe is different too. But the same logic doesn't apply to the other Turtle Universes. |
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And yet they still learned to adapt to the 2k12 universe ,showing they are more than capable fighters.
If anything, it was the 2k12 turtles who were the most under-utilised characters in my opinion. The 80s turtles, Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady had a defined arc over the entire episode while the 2k12 Turtles didn't progress too much outside of appreciating their 80s couterparts more by the end which could've been done better. Last edited by FredWolfLeonardo; 09-16-2017 at 01:09 PM. |
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Should we argue that the 1987 Turtles can adapt to any universe thus are the better fighters?
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This brings me to another point, which I don't think anyone has talked about, that their fight with Tiger Claw was probably very different from their fight with Bebop and Rocksteady. Whereas the latter took place in the Nick universe, putting the 87 turtles at a disadvantage, they fought Tiger Claw on their home turf, which gave them all sorts of cartoon physics and tactics which TC wouldn't have been prepared for. In a similar vein, the 80s Turtles competently fought against the Kraang and Kraang Subprime since they are technically not characters from the Nick universe, but Dimension X which the 80s turtles are used to. This makes me wonder, is this an explanation for why the 80s Foot Soldiers are so competent in the Nick universe? In the 80s world, they are near useless as they use simple brute force which is outclassed by the 80s turtles' slapstick/ninjitsu tactics while in the Nick universe, they are shown to be able to give both teams of turtles combined trouble and even hold their own against the EPF, who are highly trained. Last edited by FredWolfLeonardo; 09-16-2017 at 03:39 PM. |
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