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[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

So we're gonna just forget all the awkward, sloppy matches and awful promos.

Kay.

Yeah....I watch a ton of WWE, and I need to see examples because I don't see these sloppy matches and awful promos...she is not nearly as sloppy as Charlotte, and the Bellas. AND since Naomi turned heel her promos have been probably the best out of all the divas. There is definitely this camp of "She sucks" and "No she definitely doesn't suck". It's very odd.

[BubblyShell22]

I think Naomi's doing the best she can with what she has. It was hard for her to transition to a heel role after being a face for so long, but she's done a good job with it, and I like what she's doing. But I agree about Eva Marie. Get her out of there and bring Natalya back in. She needs to do something since she's one of the Divas who actually cares about the business.

[TheCanadiandrome]

So RAW looks good this week and I can't wait til NOC

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Leo, I just watched the video of your friends. Any chance they can pull you over there for s match if even as a jobber in a dark match?

No chance! ROH and the Monster Factory apparently have some sort of talent exchange program going on right now. I'm, let's say, no longer friends with the right people. Whatever, I'm happy for them. Everybody getting a shot from there deserves it. It just stings a little. I probably would've been one of them if I was still there.

Instead I got fired for doing a second-rope cross-body for 2 in the opener. Life's funny sometimes.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Leo656

No chance! ROH and the Monster Factory apparently have some sort of talent exchange program going on right now. I'm, let's say, no longer friends with the right people. Whatever, I'm happy for them. Everybody getting a shot from there deserves it. It just stings a little. I probably would've been one of them if I was still there.

Instead I got fired for doing a second-rope cross-body for 2 in the opener. Life's funny sometimes.

scew em dude! who knows you could still get an ROH shot maybe another way

[Leo656]

I'm a wee bit up there for that I'm afraid. I'unno man, that's a commitment. I mean, I want to work, don't get me wrong, but I was pretty well set being a 4-5 shows a month guy. That was steady, comfortable, and fulfilling, and it didn't involve or require screwing up any other area of my life. At this point, where I'm actually making pretty good money working 6-7 days a week at my real job, finally, the commitment required to actually have a steady gig with ROH would realistically be more than I could lend myself to.

There's guys way more suitable for it than I am. I'm okay with that. One or two matches there would'a been nice. I mean I've worked and trained with plenty of their guys, from the bottom to the top, done seminars with Kevin Kelly, stuff is pretty tight-knit up here, so it's not like it is or ever was totally impossible, but infinitely less likely than it was 6 or 8 months ago, unfortunately. It's whatever, I'm not the only one. A lot of guys are getting squeezed out. Under 30, 6-pack, and single is the new standard if guys wanna work, so a lot of dudes are choosing Real Life. If you know you're not going to TV there's no sense just bumping around in gyms until your back goes out, y'know? It's silly.

It just kind of stings when you see guys you know - and this is just in general, I've kown a lot of guys who went to lots of different companies - who you were there on like their first or second day, and while it's great to see them come a long way and improve, the only thing they really did significantly differently was make different friends, and it's not that they're not nice guys because they are, but they sometimes get put in certain positions because of who they drive with, or who they drink with, over who they've worked with or what they've specifically done to improve, even when they DO improve... it's just kind of irritating.

MOSTLY because the single biggest lie the boys all tell each other is, "I talked to so-and-so about you, they're gonna bring you in and have you work." Dude, I've only been working 5 years and I swear I've heard that 500 times and I got a booking out of that exactly once. Like, I actually do that for people! I always tell people to hire this guy, and they do... and then they're like, "Thanks buddy, now you can go screw!" I should at least get 10% if I'm just the guy's f*ckin' agent, y'think? I think I've gotten way more other guys work than I've gotten me work. I'm f*ckin' awful at this.

[MikeandRaph87]

This is why scripted or not WWE has to be respected.

http://thebiglead.com/2015/09/16/joh...but-who-cares/

[TheCanadiandrome]

Very very classy

[BubblyShell22]

I really like what WWE is doing for Connor's Cure and the Susan G. Komen foundation. Those are the types of things that make you realize that WWE is more than just sports entertainment and that they're doing good things for people.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Every time they play that video for Connors Cure I swear to god I shed s few tears

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, I get teary-eyed myself.

[Memphis]

I'll be at NoC tonight. Definitely looking forward to it. I haven't seen Sting live since Monday Night Nitro in like 99 or something. I seriously hope he doesn't come out like on Raw last week and bum it up in a t-shirt...

I'll also be there wondering what the hell is happening to Ziggler. I was willing to stomach this stupid love... Square?... Up until they started using those dumb tmz-type promos. Also, I never noticed the schnoz Summer is rocking before she started wearing her hair like Lana.

[BubblyShell22]

Have fun at the PPV. Hope it's good. Be sure to tell us what happens and if you had a blast or not.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Memphis

I'll be at NoC tonight. Definitely looking forward to it. I haven't seen Sting live since Monday Night Nitro in like 99 or something. I seriously hope he doesn't come out like on Raw last week and bum it up in a t-shirt...

I'll also be there wondering what the hell is happening to Ziggler. I was willing to stomach this stupid love... Square?... Up until they started using those dumb tmz-type promos. Also, I never noticed the schnoz Summer is rocking before she started wearing her hair like Lana.

have fun dude

[XERO]

Hope Sting's alright. Looks like he was major gassed during the match.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by XERO

Hope Sting's alright. Looks like he was major gassed during the match.

Yeah. Plus taking that splash through the announce table didn't help

[Memphis]

It was really fun, I got to "meet" Reigns in the bathroom. I got a nod, it was really cool. They wouldn't let anyone near him though. Outside, they were even telling people to put away their cameras before he came out of the restroom. He walked down my aisle, right next to my seat! But I was stuck in the concession area. They wouldn't let any of us back to our seats until Reigns got to the ring.

I don't know if it showed up for you guys, but another fan jumped the barrier and got to the ring right before Jericho came out. The camera was focused on Reigns and Ambrose when I looked up so I don't know if it was broadcast. He rolled in, but was tackled by the ref and then security. Security has been slipping lately. That other guy just walked with Rollins to the ring a few weeks ago!

I think Sting was legitimately injured, or at the very least, extremely exhausted. Anytime you saw Rollins interacting with the fans with the camera on him (When he was pointing out the wave we were doing and when he was taunting after the second turnbuckle powerbomb) the doctors were checking on Sting. After Kane and Sheamus, Rollins cut a really good promo while walking to the back. Basically I'm the best champion any of you will ever feast your eyes on and name dropping the favorites.

[Leo656]

Yeah, the camera caught that asshole. Stay classy, marks.

You know why this sh*t happens so much? Because the guy doesn't get dragged backstage by security so the boys can take free shots on him like back in the day. F*ckin' lawyers ruin everything. You jump in the ring when you have no business being there, you deserve the sh*t kicked out of you, not a "rough escort outside" by security, that sh*t scares no one, they still have their story about what a "badass" they were. But nobody's gonna brag about the time they hopped the rail, got in the ring, and then got the sh*t kicked out of them while the cops just laughed about it, which is how it still should be. When people know there's no consequences, they turn into assholes.

My favorite was Halloween Havoc 1997, when some goofball in Sting paint tried to attack Hogan and Hogan and Savage just beat on him forever. Glorious.

Show was, as usual, an okay Raw but that's all. What the F*CK was that ending? Holy sh*t; when your "Big Ending" is yet another Kane re-emergence, your main event has officially sh*t the bed. Sting was definitely hurt; they immediately went to the finish as soon as he could walk again, and he got the f*ck out of there immediately after the match, and he looked kind of embarrassed. Maybe 55-year-old guys shouldn't be taking certain spots? That move was just plain too brutal.

I hate to say it, but other than how nice it is to have him around... Sting in WWE sucks. It doesn't work. He doesn't fit, he never fit, he was never gonna fit, and frankly, he looks kind of embarrassed on the way out the door after every single segment he's in. It's really, really noticeable and it's getting hard to watch. People said his TNA stuff was hard to watch, but... this is much worse. It's worse because he's older, it's worse because he has no specific history with fans of the WWE product, it's worse because his heart clearly isn't in it anymore, and it's worse because the only way it could work, is if it was like TNA and "Make Sting Look Invincible" was the direction the entire company was running under, and that was never going to happen.

I officially wish he'd just signed for a Hall of Fame and merchandise deal. He never should've wrestled for WWE. It's way more harmful to his legacy than anything at this point. This match was just not good for him, even aside from him getting hurt. I don't know; I'm a huge Sting fan but I honestly never wanted to see him in WWE and, as usual, I was dead on. Huge mistake all the way around. I mean, he definitely tried, and at least it was better than last time out; it's just not working.

Ah well. Always nice to see the guy. That's literally it, though.

- EDIT: lordsofpain.net confirmed that Sting suffered a "significant" legitimate injury but "details are sketchy". But yeah, the Buckle Bomb f*cked him up. Who's the genius that called THAT spot? Call me crazy, but I'm guessing it wasn't the guy in the paint pushing 60 who didn't even take bumps like that in his prime. Jesus.

[BubblyShell22]

Yep, reports are saying Sting was hurt. I agree with you, Leo, that Sting never should have joined WWE, but I think he did it because the fans wanted to see him and I think he wanted to see if he could do it one more time. But I think he should just hang it up if he's going to get hurt like that. Not good.

So another guy jumped the barrier? What an idiot! And I remember that with Savage and Hogan, but at the time, I thought it was planned all along. Now that I know it wasn't, that's hilarious and I agree it should happen. People like that have no business in the ring and need to be taught a lesson, especially if they try to hurt a wrestler.

Didn't see Jericho coming as the partner for Ambrose and Reigns. I figured it would be Kane instead.

Awesome that you got to see Reigns up close, Memphis. Did you talk to him at all?

[TheCanadiandrome]

i think WWE's head of security said it best that "someone should be fired over these fan incidents!" lol yeah you you a$$hole! rofl! if it's his bloody fault then he should maybe be fired and they should invest in better security.

and like Leo said let the "Boys" have a few rounds with these moronic retards and then see what happens haha!

actually calling em retards is kind of an insult to mentally challenged folks because some challenged folks are a hell of alot smarter then given credit for