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Old 12-27-2017, 08:09 AM   #1121
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I saw that part of the interview. but if you see the utter lack of enthusiasm he has...it's rather hard to deny that he could care less about these new movies.
More than likely he's tired of doing press and being asked the exact same questions over and over for days. Actors hate press tours especially ones that are this extensive for franchises like SW. He was actually very vocal on social media about the movie during the lead up to its release over the past year.
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Old 12-27-2017, 08:41 AM   #1122
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because he's obviously not a fan of this stuff, and might just not like where it's going like everyone else. but then that wouldn't fit your narrative .
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:21 AM   #1123
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I'm sure it couldn't possibly have been the fact that the greatest asset that fanboys have is also our biggest detriment: that we never let anything go.

Let's face it folks, we're exhausting.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:28 AM   #1124
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because he's obviously not a fan of this stuff, and might just not like where it's going like everyone else. but then that wouldn't fit your narrative .
I'm not pushing any narrative. I don't love the movie. I've posted my negative thoughts on it. I'm just countering your nonsense.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:47 AM   #1125
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I was actually mistaken in my last post. I said three weekends. It's actually only been two.

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the biggest drop off in movie history might have something to do with them reigning in their biggest star. especially since all the male star wars fans they thought they could do without looked up to what he said. as well as lots of the female ones.
There was nothing to reign in. He hasn't even changed his mind. This "I came around on it and think it worked out" stuff is what he said in the same answers in the same interviews he talked about disagreeing with the direction for Luke. Geek sites, of course, didn't help here; I guess it's a prime example of what the people who complain about clickbait articles and the like are talking about.

What's changed is he's now sorry he was honest about how he felt at the start. Mark Hammil's also a guy who is smart enough to realize he doesn't own Luke. But he has opinions about it. Hell, the only portrayal of Luke he agrees with a hundred percent is probably A New Hope. He had problems with things from Empire, too, and has said as much over the years.

Again, sure, there's a big drop-off, but we're also dealing with box office takes the size of full blockbuster budgets including promotion in the opening weekend. Big drop-offs are to be expected and it's not like it isn't projected to end somewhere around one point six billion dollars. Hell, I loved the movie and I almost wish they would take a real hit, just because Disney have been totally scummy piles of garbage in their attempts to strong-arm theaters and need something to worry about to get them to back off. And people wonder why the the Fox buy alarms a lot of people. But this isn't going to be the movie that happens.
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:05 PM   #1126
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Don't most big blockbuster movies tend to have huge drop-offs after the first two weeks? For obvious reason that all the biggest fans and fanboys all rush to see the movie at once the moment it comes out, then after they've seen it all the regular people, like families with kids, or casual fans, come to see it after.
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:29 PM   #1127
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Don't most big blockbuster movies tend to have huge drop-offs after the first two weeks?
Generally a movie is expected to drop 50% in its second weekend. It's rare when you see movies doing better than that.

So right away when I'm reading all these articles about "ZOMG! 'The Last Jedi' just dropped a GADGILLION dollars in its second weekend, this is HISTORIC!!" I just stop reading. Most movies don't have $220 million dollar weekend openings... of course there will be a huge dropoff.
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Old 12-28-2017, 07:36 AM   #1128
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how to divide a fan base. step one. can't deny she has an agenda now.

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Old 12-28-2017, 08:41 AM   #1129
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1/10

He used to be much better at this.

The money is going to eb and flow, what I'm more curious about is how long the discussion about the movie going to remain newsworthy.

I've had more interesting discussions surrounding this movie then I have any other movie in a really long time. I'm kind of hoping that continues.
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:01 AM   #1130
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I'd love to see a comic based on Lucas' treatments for VII-IX, like how Dark Horse adapted his early drafts into that comic miniseries called "The Star Wars."
Not going to happen for a long while since releasing in the next few years could be seen Disney was not happy with their version of the ST, once enough time passes I can see it.

Any of you ever read Splinter of the Minds Eye? It was the first Star Wars book written before ESB so it's interesting where else they could've taken the story. In it the Luke/Leia relationship continues and kiss and Luke faces Darth Vader and chops his arm off. It was written from another draft of Lucas in case ANH was not a success they could continue a low budget sequel.

In fact all the pre-official EU EU is rather interesting because of that but it changed once the Thrawn Trilogy came out.

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I've had more interesting discussions surrounding this movie then I have any other movie in a really long time. I'm kind of hoping that continues.
I like how you have all these "great interesting discussions" in these "non-toxic places" also how our opinion is just a minority and imply we're wrong; and yet you have to constantly remind us in every other thread .
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:10 AM   #1131
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Old 12-28-2017, 11:10 AM   #1132
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I like how you have all these "great interesting discussions" in these "non-toxic places" also how our opinion is just a minority and imply we're wrong; and yet you have to constantly remind us in every other thread .
But how you show off how righteous you are, without reminding about that in every thread with every opportunity (or even without)?


IMO, PC don't visit any place, save for Technodrome and he is just a concerned troll.
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Old 12-28-2017, 11:39 AM   #1133
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For instance, this thread about Hinduism and Star Wars from Twitter:

https://twitter.com/therunningfree/s...24652497629186
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Old 12-28-2017, 12:06 PM   #1134
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For instance, this thread about Hinduism and Star Wars from Twitter:

https://twitter.com/therunningfree/s...24652497629186
Apophenia.
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Old 12-28-2017, 12:08 PM   #1135
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You guys realize there were plenty of female Star Wars fans before the new trilogy, right? I remember back in the day most female Star Wars fans all had crushes on Han or Luke, basically the same way you would see anyone fangirl modern actors. This is nothing new.

Leia has also been considered a feminist role model for decades now.

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if you think like that you're going to be single for a longo o timo
LOL, sdp has been with a partner for a long time. Don't speak for other people.

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IMO, PC don't visit any place, safe for Technodrome and he is just a concerned troll.
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Old 12-28-2017, 12:19 PM   #1136
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That it what he wants you to think.
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Old 12-28-2017, 12:46 PM   #1137
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nah, they're fat.
I think they're teenagers.

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Old 12-28-2017, 06:23 PM   #1138
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Adam Driver is the best new actor in the new movies. I liked him in Logan Lucky too, as well as Silence with Liam Neeson and Andrew Garfield. I'm thinking about checking out some of his other movies because of this.

Kylo Ren went from being a lousy Darth Vader wannabe to becoming one of the best and emotionally driven parts of the new trilogy.
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Old 12-28-2017, 06:35 PM   #1139
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I think they're teenagers.
I thought they where lucasfilm employees on a red carpet thing for TLJ. hence the bad robot back drop.
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Old 12-28-2017, 08:12 PM   #1140
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Saw this today. It was a decent enough movie for the most part (cinematography, soundtrack, et cetera) but a terrible story (nonsense plot, everyone made dumb decisions, bad dialogue). And again it was like the writers just broke other Star Wars movies into pieces and used them to make a new Star Wars movie. Just like Ep. 7 was a redux of Ep. 4, Ep. 8 was a redux of Ep. 5. It's like they rebooted the Original Trilogy while still keeping it part of the canon continuity

Right now I give it maybe 6/10. Still not my least favorite Star Wars film
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