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Old 06-30-2023, 10:00 AM   #61
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Was that when 4Kids still controlled the show? I recall that Region 2 DVD being very well-designed and clearly produced by people who knew what they were doing, so they probably made a specific request to 4Kids for the full cut.

However the definitive version for 4Kids was the broadcast cut. That's the version they used most often, so they labeled it as the master copy. That's what got sent to Viacom, with any other versions either being passed over or misplaced.
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Old 06-30-2023, 10:13 AM   #62
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I don't know how this stuff works, is there no way to send them a DVD of that version and use it officially and copy it over? I guess it's probably too late though since I imagine these DVDs are already being printed and ready to ship out to retailers.
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Old 06-30-2023, 10:19 AM   #63
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It likely is too late. I am sure there are legal problems with that also as Viacom would only want MovieZyng to use files sourced from their archives, not anywhere else. Not to mention possible complications from a PAL to NTSC conversion.
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Old 06-30-2023, 10:21 AM   #64
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Very weird. So I guess no bonus features either? Like those T-file shorts that had new animation, the Mayhem from Monster Island shorts, any of that?
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Old 06-30-2023, 10:25 AM   #65
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No bonus features either. I don't know much about it either but I assume MovieZyng asked for whatever Viacom had for the main series. They would have to specifically ask or search for any ancillary features, like the T-files or those Peace Nova shorts. I know to you or me it seems natural to include those, but if Viacom has them I assume they're labeled as advertisements given their length, and not stored with the rest of the show.

Also I checked and the Region 2 DVD actually has the Nickelodeon logo. Not sure why Viacom apparently couldn't find it for this one. As I said my assumption is that the broadcast edit is flagged as the master copy, and over time the uncut version was left behind as data and files were reorganized.
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Old 06-30-2023, 10:27 AM   #66
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Well, all those shorts are on youtube or uploaded in other places last I checked, so I guess people can still watch them elsewhere. It's a shame not to have everything in one official release though.
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Since we are talking about this stuff does anyone have a copy of all the images 4Kids used to post on their website? Character sheets, backgrounds, music clips, etc.?
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Old 06-30-2023, 12:01 PM   #68
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It shouldn't be forgotten that the R4 Mexican DVD release of Turtles Forever was both the uncut version and NTSC anamorphic. It had the Nick logo plastered all over it.
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Old 06-30-2023, 01:18 PM   #69
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I can't even comprehend how official companies do not own master versions of all the episodes they own. Like when Viacom purchased TMNT from Mirage/4kids, they should of gotten the entire 2k3 catalog, including all the shorts, uncut Turtles Forever, everything. Hell even those old Peter Laird interviews that were on the old 4kids DVDs back in 2003-2004 should of been archived and included on these collection.

Like how do fans do a better job archiving/saving this stuff than official companies who own it? It honestly doesn't make sense when you stop to think about it. Like it boggles the mind.
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Old 06-30-2023, 04:42 PM   #70
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It's usual for people to own things but not keep them organized -- just shove them in the attic. Companies do it too. They receive these files but shuffle them around in ways that may not be intuitive, or put them in places that aren't immediately accessible.

For example Lucasfilm's music department has a poor archive and they can't find the masters for some of John Williams's music. Even the relatively recent ones like Phantom Menace. They allegedly just have files right off the retail CDs as their "master copies" for some tracks. There's a lot of content to deal with and there's no time or money for people to comb through it properly.

It'd be great if someone had those DVDs and made good copies of the bonuses -- I'm sure they could go on Archive.org without a problem.
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Old 06-30-2023, 11:47 PM   #71
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That is a definite bummer. I have been trying ever since this set was announced to get a reply from them on Facebook, email, etc. but it is like trying to herd feral cats in a dark barn. I really wish that these companies would communicate with and involve fans of the show who know their stuff much better than the people who actually own and produce them. I hate when things are cut down or edited. I nearly had a stroke when I bought the “””Uncut””” DVDs of “The Ren & Stimpy Show” and noticed several cut scenes right away. The set is now totally worthless to me. So now I am STILL waiting for that show to get a worthy DVD release. The only saving grace with this TMNT set is that I do already own the Uncut “Turtles Forever” from the UK on DVD, but it would be nice to be able to watch it as a Region 1 disc so I could play it on any player. I will still buy this boxset but I am definitely bummed to hear that they provided only the bare essentials. We need real fans working for these places so that they can put out the best product possible.
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Old 06-30-2023, 11:55 PM   #72
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I mean this set still does have all 155 episodes of the show collected in one place, and assumingly, all the episodes will be in their proper order for the first time unlike the old DVDs. So that alone is worth it.

The lack of bonus features or those shorts is a shame but they're all uploaded on youtube and other places. And I also own the UK Turtles Forever DVD just in case this one has cuts on it. So I think for any fan of this series, this is definitely worth picking up. And also to show your support for more 2k3 TMNT products in general, if this sells really well Viacom/Nick may promote the 2k3 franchise in other ways again as well (such as toys or a videogame collection).

So any fan of the 2k3 version of TMNT should support this if you want to possibly see more toward this incarnation in the future.
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Old 07-03-2023, 05:57 AM   #73
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Since we are talking about this stuff does anyone have a copy of all the images 4Kids used to post on their website? Character sheets, backgrounds, music clips, etc.?
tOkKa has a Flickr album.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/terrib...57603811053044


There is some original background music on this turtlepower.ru thread as well.

https://www.turtlepower.ru/showthread.php?t=516
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Old 07-03-2023, 09:03 AM   #74
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I'm going to inject some more paranoia. Nick released a few discs of TMNT 2003 and they were all 4:3 in a 16:9 anamorphic box thereby killing a good amount of horizontal res. I'm really hoping that this release does not follow that example.
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Old 07-03-2023, 12:00 PM   #75
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This is on the product page, does anyone know who this is?

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Is this the guy in charge of the DVDs?
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Old 07-04-2023, 02:10 AM   #76
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I already have the DVD collection myself, but hey, it's something. Nickelodeon sometimes recognizes the series.

Better late than never I guess!
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Old 07-16-2023, 02:39 PM   #77
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amazon has a pre-order sale for only $52.99:

https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutan...ps%2C72&sr=8-2

I ordered a copy to show my support even though I already have all the eps online. If the DVD set turns out disappointing, I guess I could return it.

But after waiting like 15+ goddamn years for a proper 2003 DVD set with episodes in proper order, I feel like I have to support this. So I ordered a copy, let's hope it turns out to be a good set.
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Old 07-16-2023, 03:47 PM   #78
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amazon has a pre-order sale for only $52.99:

https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutan...ps%2C72&sr=8-2

I ordered a copy to show my support even though I already have all the eps online. If the DVD set turns out disappointing, I guess I could return it.

But after waiting like 15+ goddamn years for a proper 2003 DVD set with episodes in proper order, I feel like I have to support this. So I ordered a copy, let's hope it turns out to be a good set.
Damn, I wish that I would have waited for that sale before ordering a copy.
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Old 07-16-2023, 03:51 PM   #79
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Nevermind, I think that they gave me the sale price.
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Old 07-18-2023, 11:31 AM   #80
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FYI, the complete series is on sale on Vudu right now in HD for $24.99. I don't think the movie is included.
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