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Old 07-18-2014, 09:09 AM   #41
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Yeah, I got a look at the visual history book the other day and it pretty clearly confirmed Sachs was Shredder. Now they're plainly stating he's not. Either they're intentionally lying to surprise us when he does turn out to be Shredder, or they decided to change Shredder to someone else VERY late in production.
Or there are two of them
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:23 AM   #42
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Or there are two of them
like a krang and saki?
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:27 AM   #43
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like a krang and saki?
possibly...or just some crazy white guy trying to be a badass
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:29 AM   #44
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So i hope Shredder is Oroku saki! "glad you could join us!"
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:30 AM   #45
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possibly...or just some crazy white guy trying to be a badass
a good villain needs a motive
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:32 AM   #46
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a good villain needs a motive
well who knows what drives them in this movie...
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well who knows what drives them in this movie...
reaction to Young Justice being cancelled....
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:02 AM   #48
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reaction to Young Justice being cancelled....
I could see that pisses Shredder off
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:48 AM   #49
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You ever heard of this little thing I like to call "lying"?
Why would they lie about this? You saw the fan backlash over white Shredder, right? No way anyone involved with the film would be onboard with lying about something that would cause such negative feedback.

The way I see it one of two things is going on:

1) They completely changed the script after the backlash (like they did with the alien origin) and simply made Sachs a political/financial backer of the Foot. His character isn't really needed in this situation but I guess it works.

2) they're lying now and the big surprise is that Sachs takes over as The Shredder during the movie. No one (except everyone) would see that twist coming.

My guess is #2.
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Old 07-18-2014, 11:14 AM   #50
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part of me hopes its 2 as well so i can yell "fooled you" ala spaceballs
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:55 PM   #51
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Yeah, I got a look at the visual history book the other day and it pretty clearly confirmed Sachs was Shredder. Now they're plainly stating he's not. Either they're intentionally lying to surprise us when he does turn out to be Shredder, or they decided to change Shredder to someone else VERY late in production.
And that's what I'm saying. No place for him here. If he were to build the robo shredder armor or run the company that makes mutagen we have Baxter as the mad scientist character. If shredder needs some sort of public spokesman it could have been Baxter, Karai or Saki himself. Fitchner isn't needed.

I know shredder had lackeys before. But tatsu was never given a large faux main villian role nor were we ever to believe that he was shredder.
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Old 07-18-2014, 02:07 PM   #52
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Why would they lie about this? You saw the fan backlash over white Shredder, right? No way anyone involved with the film would be onboard with lying about something that would cause such negative feedback.

The way I see it one of two things is going on:

1) They completely changed the script after the backlash (like they did with the alien origin) and simply made Sachs a political/financial backer of the Foot. His character isn't really needed in this situation but I guess it works.

2) they're lying now and the big surprise is that Sachs takes over as The Shredder during the movie. No one (except everyone) would see that twist coming.

My guess is #2.
I don't know...people lie all the time to cover up **** regardless of the outcome...it's just a movie anyway. It's not like they are lying before Congress
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I don't know...people lie all the time to cover up **** regardless of the outcome...it's just a movie anyway. It's not like they are lying before Congress
Bay lies yes...but not in the way to "fix" or hide things...he lies to cover his ass....or just to get people off his back
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Bay lies yes...but not in the way to "fix" or hide things...he lies to cover his ass....or just to get people off his back
well we will see in a few weeks won't we?
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He gave up the role after seeing this.

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Old 07-18-2014, 02:43 PM   #56
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... Splinter stealing Shredder's girlfriend...that's one way of looking at it.
Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about Splinter didn't steal Shredder's girlfriend in the original Eastman and Laird origin. I'm guessing he's getting his origin stories mixed up. But he's right we can't expect the audience of this film to be able to follow the complex story that was used in a children's cartoon.
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He gave up the role after seeing this.

http://i.imgur.com/u1YkSJG.png
He saw that and said "fu*k this sh*t!"
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He saw that and said "fu*k this sh*t!"


The mask is actually not too bad looking.
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The mask is actually not too bad looking.
That's just what I was thinking...not bad at all
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Old 07-18-2014, 03:59 PM   #60
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I don't know...people lie all the time to cover up **** regardless of the outcome...it's just a movie anyway. It's not like they are lying before Congress
What? They're not going to lie about something that would create a negative perception about their movie which could hurt the box office. If anything, they'd do the opposite (which is probably what they're doing right now regarding all this talk about Fichtner not being the Shredder in this movie).
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