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Did You guys noticed how many shots from dailies are on turtle power documentary?
I think they had access to these by interviewing Steve Barron and they have a lot more of that.. maybe ? Did they post here how they come to get these shots ? These are dailes from camera lens recorded to video camera, so all takes are there , deleted, bloopers and alll that. Maybe we should ask them about that stuff and if they can show more. On 1:20 0:30 or this entire vid
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Just found this interview and Josh says Steve Barron was let go during the end of the film cause it was too dark
https://soundcloud.com/i-was-there-t...with-josh-pais
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I haven't had a chance to listen to the interview yet (COME ON LUNCH!), but it's my understanding that Golden Harvest thought the film was literally too dark. Not as in the tone of the film or script-- simply the cinematography exposure.
Director of Photography John Fenner did a ton of testing on style/intensity of lighting to make the Henson suits look as good as possible. Too bright and they looked utterly cartoonish (SOTO). They went with a very dim look to the film, but Golden Harvest wanted the film exposure "pushed" (over-developed... brightened) in post-production. Notice people complaining about the film grain? That's a result of pushing film exposure. To my knowledge, Barron and Menke were let go from the film after their initial edit was complete. Golden Harvest took over from there, handling the score, soundtrack, further edits, etc. |
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Pais merely states Barron was taken off the film at the end. There isn't a whole lot of elaboration. Considering he probably had zero presence on the film during post-production, I doubt he knows many details about the issue either.
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I was under the impression the grainy look of the film was just typical of the film stock Golden Harvest used for it's films generally. Japanese films looked a lot more grainy than Hollywood ones back then.
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On the firing thing-- I'm wondering if it was as simple as a contractual thing? Barron and Menke might have only been contracted for their initial cut. Perhaps internal Golden Harvest post-production teams in China were far cheaper than continuing to pay Barron and Menke? This is of course all speculation... Barron never seemed to have a negative tone while talking about the process, after all. |
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This may be a little shallow, but damn, Judith looks good. The years have been very kind.
I loved hearing that Robin Williams was a fan. He would have been a great Professor Perry, especially if they stuck with him being a secret Utrom. Williams probably had a great Krang performance in him. |
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I'm really thinking this might just happen after all. We just got the recently announced to be released of the score on vinyl. Fingers crossed tightly.
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They announced on their FB pages that Cleanin' Up the Town is looking to hit right in time for the first film's 35th anniversary. So, knock on wood, it looks it's coming out next year, the first doc at least.
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So basically Barron finished shooting his movie and then wasn't allowed to be an editor? First of all, you generally don't have a director involved in the editing because they're not going to be objective. Second, how was he "fired"? Was Steve Barron at any point hired to be an editor? No. He was hired to direct the movie and he completed his job.
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It’s the polar opposite. An editor makes hard choices and a director is too attached to the stuff they shot to let it get cut. Ever noticed how while generally more informative, directors cuts usually suck.
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This has not been my experience. Almost every Director's Cut I've ever watched contained crucial pieces of plot and character development which were clearly cut for running time or to appease the ratings board, not to make the film any better.
It's entirely possible that we watch completely different kinds of films, but I'm curious what you're basing your opinion on. I will say that the "Apocalypse Now" DC had a few slow spots, but so did the rest of the movie so it didn't really bother me. And the ending of the theatrical cut of "Legend" made more sense, while the rest of the movie was better served by the DC. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Precisely.
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