Game of Thrones

[plastroncafe]

Sansa convicted him, Arya executed him.

What some of you consider "nothing" I consider actual character work.
The show started with the two of them as little girls hating each other for either not following the rules at all, or for following them too closely.

They've both grown, matured, and come into their own as women and I for one was pleased as freakin' punch to see them unite at the end of this season.

I also kind of love pretty much any scene that involved the Hound, especially his interactions with Brieanne (they both admire their adorable little murder-ball in common, Arya) and Tormond ('the giant blonde woman almost killed me.' 'lucky! I wish she would almost kill me...')

ZOMBIE DRAGON!
Which was awesome.

My predictions for the next season are this:

- Cersei isn't coming off that Throne willingly. It's literally the only thing she has left now that Jamie has abandoned her for the greater fight up north.
So she's going to cling to it, and the kid she's carrying, as tightly as possible.

That kid isn't making it through the season. Either it'll be born normal, and will be killed by someone (Arya? Ellaria?), or born a dwarf like Tyrion and she'll kill it herself.

- We're going to get Clegane Bowl, where the Hound and the Mountain square off.

It's my hope that during this fight Littlefinger makes his way back into King's Landing.

Because let's face it, see what I did there, there's no way Arya is going to pass this opportunity up. She's the only Stark decent at deception, and if my memory is correct Cersei is the only one left on her list.

- Jon knocked up Dany.
They'll marry, regardless of the fact that she's his aunt, and then when she dies in battle he'll be kind of the 7 realms.

Sansa will be the Lady of Winterfell.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Sansa convicted him, Arya executed him.

What some of you consider "nothing" I consider actual character work.
The show started with the two of them as little girls hating each other for either not following the rules at all, or for following them too closely.

They've both grown, matured, and come into their own as women and I for one was pleased as freakin' punch to see them unite at the end of this season.

Yep. And they didn't even particularly like each other in season 1... now it's really full circle, and I love that Littlefinger's final contribution was sealing that rift.

ZOMBIE DRAGON!

Is it? The Night King didn't raise him as a standard Wight, with his arm raising... he touched his head and rose him same as he does when he creates another actual White Walker. And they're not zombies.

- Cersei isn't coming off that Throne willingly. It's literally the only thing she has left now that Jamie has abandoned her for the greater fight up north. So she's going to cling to it, and the kid she's carrying, as tightly as possible.

That kid isn't making it through the season. Either it'll be born normal, and will be killed by someone (Arya? Ellaria?), or born a dwarf like Tyrion and she'll kill it herself.

Just going off of the leaks from November...

Spoiler:

Literally the one thing that didn't come true in the spoilers leaked from November was that Cersei wakes up in a scene with bloody sheets and a miscarriage. That 100% of the rest of the spoilers all came true exactly as described, this makes me think this scene was cut from the finale, probably moved to the premiere of season 8.

- We're going to get Clegane Bowl, where the Hound and the Mountain square off.

For sure. But I don't think it'll be as simple as the Hound killing his brother and that's that. The Mountain may even be redeemed.

It's my hope that during this fight Littlefinger makes his way back into King's Landing.

Because let's face it, see what I did there, there's no way Arya is going to pass this opportunity up. She's the only Stark decent at deception, and if my memory is correct Cersei is the only one left on her list.

Yeah, Littlefinger is probably the only one left at this point there is much point in Arya face-querading as. That they have available to them.

- Jon knocked up Dany.

For sure.

They'll marry, regardless of the fact that she's his aunt, and then when she dies in battle he'll be kind of the 7 realms.

Probably no time to stop for a wedding in the midst of everything happening. I do definitely see her dying... in addition to everything else, there was the prophecy way back that she'll never actually sit on the throne.

Sansa will be the Lady of Winterfell.

For sure. Unfortunately this means I don't see her being given much else to do in season 8.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Is it? The Night King didn't raise him as a standard Wight, with his arm raising... he touched his head and rose him same as he does when he creates another actual White Walker. And they're not zombies.

Things that were once dead that now aren't...totally zombies.

Speaking to that, I can't believe I actually fell for that whole: And the Greyjoys are fleeing because dead things freak them out.

I got most of the way through the episode and was like:
Wait. They literally worship The Drowned God (*cough*cthulu*cough*), why is he afraid of a dead thing that doesn't die again?

Oh right. doublecross. Nice.

Just going off of the leaks from November...

Spoiler:

Literally the one thing that didn't come true in the spoilers leaked from November was that Cersei wakes up in a scene with bloody sheets and a miscarriage. That 100% of the rest of the spoilers all came true exactly as described, this makes me think this scene was cut from the finale, probably moved to the premiere of season 8.

I just went and looked up the prophesy that she heard as a girl.
It does say that while her king will have 20 kids, she'll only have three, and they'll all die.

Spoiler:

And apparently in the books it says her little brother will strangle her to death.

So, either that's Jamie or it's Tyrion...ooooor it's Arya with Tyrion's face.
People have been talking about Tyrion not making it through to the end too.

For sure. But I don't think it'll be as simple as the Hound killing his brother and that's that. The Mountain may even be redeemed.

Yeah...I don't think there's enough of the Mountain to be redeemed by this point, nor do I think it's possible for him to have been redeemed to begin with.

Probably no time to stop for a wedding in the midst of everything happening. I do definitely see her dying... in addition to everything else, there was the prophecy way back that she'll never actually sit on the throne.

That could be that the throne itself gets destroyed.

For sure. Unfortunately this means I don't see her being given much else to do in season 8.

It's not action packed or pretty, but...the North is going to need to be rebuilt.
And she's going to need to marry.

Also, they brought Gendry back for a reason.
Curious as to what that was.

[Krutch]

My hope for how it all ends?

There's only one outcome...

Spoiler:

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Things that were once dead that now aren't...totally zombies.

Do we really consider Jon Snow a zombie?

Spoiler:

And apparently in the books it says her little brother will strangle her to death.

So, either that's Jamie or it's Tyrion...ooooor it's Arya with Tyrion's face.
People have been talking about Tyrion not making it through to the end too.

Spoiler:

Why can't it be Arya with Jaime's face?

Yeah...I don't think there's enough of the Mountain to be redeemed by this point, nor do I think it's possible for him to have been redeemed to begin with.

True. Although there has to be more to the story there with those two brothers... and maybe the Hound is less of a victim in it.

That could be that the throne itself gets destroyed.

I had that thought. It's really a cursed thing.

Also, they brought Gendry back for a reason.
Curious as to what that was.

Married off with Sansa? Yeah, I guess so.

Originally Posted by Krutch

My hope for how it all ends?

There's only one outcome...

Spoiler:

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A fairly popular theory is kind of in that vein. I guess Martin's other non-Game of Thrones books all have similar "bad guys wipe out the good guys" kind of things? That's what I've been told. In this case, it could be the White Walkers wiping out all the kingdoms... the "bittersweet" part of the end being that now the world can return to normal.

I'm hoping for a Dyson Sphere reveal (as in, the whole world exists within it, as it appears in the intro credits sequence of every episode). In space, there's like a Lannister player, a Stark player, etc., with the White Walkers as NPCs or something... a bunch of aliens influencing the 7 Kingdoms as some kind of a GM "Lord of Light," in a competition with one another called "Game of Thrones."

[AT-Man]

The best episode yet!

[ProphetofGanja]

Okay, first of all... GET HYPE, CLEGANEBOWL CONFIRMED!!!!!!!


Now that that's out of the way...

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

My season 8 predictions (*spoilers*... maybe):

* Cersei miscarries. Almost right off the bat. Goes into a rage. "Nothing left to lose" mode.

Agreed. It is known. Cersei has sunk so low, showing herself willing to commit all sorts of evils to keep her position, that she doesn't deserve something as sweet and innocent as a newborn babe. No dice.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* Theon almost certainly dies rescuing his sister or during the escape.

Yeah, there's no way his mission is 100% successful. Maybe he at least makes it inside whereever Yara is being held, and she sees that he's regained some sense of self and is seeking redemption, but then they both die. That's pretty close to a win in the Game of Thrones playbook.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* Jon Snow has "the talk" with Sam and Bran. Mind is blown. Maybe he keeps this under his hat for a while, though, at least from Daenerys.

Yeah, that's gonna be difficult for him to process. Their are some funny videos of Kit and Emilia talking about how their characters may potentially react to the news of their familial relationship.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* Jaime joins up with the combined Unsullied/Dothraki/North army just in time for the big battle. Brienne and Tyrion all vouch for him, that he's not just some mole.

Something pretty close to this. He's nowhere near the fighter he used to be now that he's lost his dominant hand, but he still has a mind for strategy and would hopefully be welcome into Dany's war council if Tyrion can convince her that he is simply trying to be on the side of the living.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* The great big White Walker battle. Lots of death. At some point, though, Jon (or someone) gets through to the Night King. We learn they want something other than just to wipe out the living. A truce/understanding (or something) is struck. Or maybe Daenerys kills the Night King and becomes the Night Queen to control all the army of the undead!

Nah, I really don't think the White Walkers want anything other than total death and destruction of the living. And then there's a theory that hypothesizes that Bran, warging back in time through the weirwood net, gets trapped in the body of the man seen tied down by the Children, and becomes the first Other, the Night King. He's lived years and years longer than any of the other main characters at this point, by virtue of having "reviewed the tapes" recorded by all the weirwood trees.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* Tyrion turns out to be a Targaryen, rides the other dragon at a critical moment.

I do think he has some Targaryen blood in him, and I do hope to see him ride a dragon. But I'm afraid that may not happen now, since the Night King killed one of Dany's dragons and I think Jon is more likely the destined rider of Rhaegal, it being named after Jon's father. There's a very interesting theory that Tyrion is actually a chimera, sharing DNA from both Tywin and the Mad King Aerys (which actually does a pretty good job of explaining why Tyrion looks so incredibly bizarre in the books, which the show didn't choose to go with) or that Tyrion is metaphorically a manticore, stating that he is secretly Oberyn's bastard son, who is secretly Aerys' bastard son. I can see it going either way.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* On their return back south, here's the big Lannisters vs. everybody that's left battle. It looks bad but... here comes the Night King (or Daenerys as the Night Queen!) and the White Walkers to help!
* During the battle, Daenerys goes a little too nuts. All that stuff they keep repeating over all the seasons about, "I'm NOT like my father, the Mad King!" turns out to be foreshadowing for, well, her becoming exactly like her father, the Mad King, and then she starts wiping out even Lannister civilians, children and all. She has to be stopped, but the Dothraki and Unsullied remain loyal to her... so they all become the enemy.
* If Daenerys becomes the Night Queen, Jorah or Jaime will be the one to kill her.
* Cersei gives up the crown willingly after, #1) Learning/growing a lot from recent events, #2) Hearing and acknowledging his right to the throne, leaving Jon Snow the King at King's Landing. Maaaybe even takes him as her husband... but that seems super weird. But maybe they're going for super weird.

All of this I hope is so wrong I'm not even going to address it point-by-point I hope that the whole Mad Queen like her daddy thing was just a feint, as I want Dany to be the Good Queen Come to Save Everyone, but we'll see I guess. I think Jamie is destined to kill Cersei when he realizes she's a spiteful **** with no intention of allying herself with the rest of humanity to fight against the threat of the undead. The final nail in the coffin will be some evil act she commits after her miscarriage.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* Sansa becomes officially the Queen of the North.

The best I'm hoping for is she is acknowledged as Lady of Winterfell and Warden of the North, and is allowed proper rule of the land, regardless of whether she marries or not.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* Arya has a final visit from the faceless man Jaqen. Turns out he's been with her since the beginning, even using the face/name of Syrio Forel when he trained her during season 1.

I can't see that happening, just because Arya was mad disrespectful to the whole Faceless cult, and they probably don't take too kindly to that. The best I can see is Jaqen just letting Arya go her own way in Westeros, far from the Faceless Ones' domain. *shrugs* who knows though

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* Happy ending for Tormund and Brienne. Probably.

I definitely hope so, at least.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

* At least one more big time loop thing with Bran. I want the "Bran = Bran the Builder" theory to be true, but I don't know. Maybe he is the one that whispers in the Mad King's ear in the past, at least. *shrug*

I think Bran has a few more things to mess up in the past, it's his main deal at this point.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Whatever happens, it won't just be as simple as... you know, Jon and Daenerys fight and defeat Night King, then go and fight and beat Cersei with her surprise reinforcements and probable surprise reinforcements for Daenerys (Daario does have to show up at some point, though... I expect "the Han Solo Save" at some point with him, no matter what happens, with the leftover armies Daenerys left across the sea), cue the happy ending. No way. Martin said the end will be "bittersweet."

I've also read compelling theories about "Arya was killed by the Waif, and the Waif has been masquerading as Arya ever since," but I don't think so. There is no good reason the Waif would bother to get revenge on Walder Frey.

I'm pretty up-in-the-air as far as what I expect to be the ultimate outcome of everything. I can't help but think of all the book plots that the show has trimmed away, which have huge effects on the book story. I'm content to just ride with whatever D&D come up with, knowing that the books will be richer and more complex.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Sansa convicted him, Arya executed him.

What some of you consider "nothing" I consider actual character work.
The show started with the two of them as little girls hating each other for either not following the rules at all, or for following them too closely.

They've both grown, matured, and come into their own as women and I for one was pleased as freakin' punch to see them unite at the end of this season.

Agreed, while undeniably some parts of their characters' interactions were unrealistic, I think as a whole their arc this season was a good one and I enjoyed it. It really does a good job of showing how far they've come, and the unique skill sets each one has acquired.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I also kind of love pretty much any scene that involved the Hound, especially his interactions with Brieanne (they both admire their adorable little murder-ball in common, Arya) and Tormond ('the giant blonde woman almost killed me.' 'lucky! I wish she would almost kill me...')

Ya, seeing Brienne and the Hound catch up was great.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

My predictions for the next season are this:

- Cersei isn't coming off that Throne willingly. It's literally the only thing she has left now that Jamie has abandoned her for the greater fight up north.
So she's going to cling to it, and the kid she's carrying, as tightly as possible.

Most definitely. She'll have a "you can come and pry it from my cold, dead fingers" mentality about the whole situation, which seems very fitting, considering

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

That kid isn't making it through the season. Either it'll be born normal, and will be killed by someone (Arya? Ellaria?), or born a dwarf like Tyrion and she'll kill it herself.

That would be pretty ironic.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

- We're going to get Clegane Bowl, where the Hound and the Mountain square off.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

It's my hope that during this fight Littlefinger makes his way back into King's Landing.

Because let's face it, see what I did there, there's no way Arya is going to pass this opportunity up. She's the only Stark decent at deception, and if my memory is correct Cersei is the only one left on her list.

That would be a rather satisfying scene to watch, but I still think Jamie will be the one to kill Cersei. It will highlight how she lost or pushed away every single ally she had. Except Qyburn, he loves her crazy ass.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

- Jon knocked up Dany.
They'll marry, regardless of the fact that she's his aunt, and then when she dies in battle he'll be king of the 7 realms.

Sansa will be the Lady of Winterfell.

I do think Jon and Dany will have a child. I don't know if both of its parents will survive to see it grow up though.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

It's not action packed or pretty, but...the North is going to need to be rebuilt.
And she's going to need to marry.

Also, they brought Gendry back for a reason.
Curious as to what that was.

I think Sansa would shine in rebuilding efforts after the winter/fight with the Night King is over. The realm deserves good rulers like her.

I'd rather see Gendry with Arya, honestly, with Arya learning to let go of revenge and get on with her life. That's an ideal-type situation though, meaning it's probably never going to happen on Game of Thrones

[Andrew NDB]

No new season until 2019!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/40...son-8#/slide/1

wtf...

[ProphetofGanja]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

No new season until 2019!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/40...son-8#/slide/1

wtf...

Just read the bad news. Damn shame. At least we should be getting a second season of some other good shows next year, like Atlanta and Westworld, those will hold me over hopefully.

And S7 of Game of Thrones will still beat Book 6 of A Song of Ice and Fire, by a longshot. I'm just hoping the release of the final season will light a fire under GRRM's ass, like "ACTUALLY it went down more like this" *begins writing furiously*