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Old 11-25-2009, 12:01 PM   #41
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I can't help at all, sorry. But I did want to chime in and say that this is an awesome idea that will definitely get my support. I loved the Image series, despite it being non-canon and would be extremely excited about a conclusion - especially if Frank and Gary are involved.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:08 PM   #42
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I loved the Image series, despite it being non-canon
To be fair, the only man saying that just forfeited all of his rights to the property. And Vol. 3 was certainly canonical the entire time it was coming out. They told us so.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:21 PM   #43
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This is so awesome. I'm very excited to see what you guys come up with. Sadly...I can't draw a straight line with a ruler, and so any and all support from me will most likely be in the form of awe and praise.

Powder, your art is amazing!
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:28 PM   #44
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Hi everyone,

I know I'm new here and everything, but I think it's awesome that you guys are planning to do this. I don't know much about Volume 3 (I don't think it ever got published here in Spain, not really sure tho), but I'd be glad to help if anything is needed. I work as an illustrator and comics author here (nothing big really, but I'm surviving at least), so I could colaborate somehow.

I'm sorry I can't compromise too much because I'm constantly dealing with deadlines (i'm gonna be swamped in work until January at least), but I could help with some sketches or storytelling or stuff like that, if you want me to do it (I can easily adapt my style to others'). Anyway I think Powder can do a great job there, I haven't seen much, but it looks cool so far, so Powder, if you need some help of any kind just tell me.

I posted a couple pics on the Fan Works thread, and I have a lot more stuff posted on my blog.

Good luck with the project Andrew.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:25 PM   #45
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I think so. The only big things dangling about with Image was, 1) Their conditions, 2) Lady Shredder, and 3) What happened to Pimiko. I think all three can be handled adequately in two issues.
You might also want to address Cheng (the Foot Mystic) zapping life force from Splinter's energy.
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You might also want to address Cheng (the Foot Mystic) zapping life force from Splinter's energy.
Oh, Cheng goes without saying.

Also expect to see Baxter.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:35 PM   #47
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Have heard back from Frank.

Frank Fosco is now aboard doing the two covers.

He actually has a backup, "The Watchers of pyrite Gorge," every issue in "The Savage Dragon." It started in SD #145 and is still going.
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Old 11-25-2009, 04:13 PM   #48
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So let me ask, who exactly is writing the script, the dialogue, etc?

Gary is going to give you the general ideas of what he would have done had the series continued, and you're going to use those ideas to hammer out two issues out of it?
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So let me ask, who exactly is writing the script, the dialogue, etc?
I'm writing the scripts. The final content will be a collaborative effort but, ultimately, he's unwilling to commit 100% to writing it by himself (or to even be officially named as writer, per se).

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Gary is going to give you the general ideas of what he would have done had the series continued, and you're going to use those ideas to hammer out two issues out of it?
We work on a synopsis together, he has ideas, I have ideas, and the general intent is to flesh out the direction he was going in ten years ago to complete the Image series. That's the primary intent. Now, obviously, what we're doing is going to be different than literally just executing the original ending Gary intended to write a decade ago and then walking away from it... because the secondary idea here is for it to retroactively serve as a bridger of sorts for the events of Vol. 4. To bookend Vol. 3 and make it, when you read it beginning to end, feel more organic to the whole Mirage TMNT universe.

He will be looking over every word of the scripts, making suggestions, adding dialogue, removing dialogue -- all of this he's willing to do, and I'm absolutely encouraging this. As far as I'm concerned, the less of me and more of Gary is in there, the better.
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Hopefully you can do it soon since it's a great idea
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To address the question of "Where does Image/TMNT Vol. 3 fit into the timeline?"

Image issues in yellow. Tweaking DrSpengler's timeline with his own suggested point of inclusion...
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PRE-TMNT

Big Bang Comics #10
Tales Vol. 2 #44 - The Amulet
Tales Vol. 2 #50 - Threads
Tales Vol. 2 #25 - My Hero!
Tales Vol. 2 #38 – Triptyche
Tales Vol. 2 #38 - Aww...rats!
Tales Vol. 2 #44 - The Lessons
Tales Vol. 2 #13 – Loops Part 1
Tales Vol. 2 #14 – Loops Part 2
TMNT Vol. 1 #9 - The Passing
Shell Shock - Survival Game
Tales Vol.2 #1 - Not Forgotten
Tales Vol.2 #55 - Day in the Life
Shell Shock - Bottoming Out
Shell Shock - New York Ninja.
Shell Shock – It’s a Gas
Shell Shock – Night Life
Tales Vol. 2 #52 – The Mission
Tales Vol. 2 #35 - The Pantheon


PRIME ERA/LIVING WITH APRIL

TMNT Vol. 1 #1 – The Turtles’ Origin is Told
Turtle Soup Vol. 2 #4 – Fifteen Years Later
TMNT Vol. 1 #2 – TMNT Vs. the Mousers
TMNT Vol. 1 #3 – The Great Chase
Raphael #1 – Me, Myself and I
Shell Shock – Complete Carnage & Radical
Raphael #1 – Fun With Guns
TMNT Vol. 1 #4 – Rescuing Master Splinter
Fugitoid #1 – The Fugitoid’s Origin
TMNT Vol. 1 #5 – Teaming Up with Fugitoid
Shell Shock - Rick's Dive
TMNT Vol. 1 #6 – The Triceraton Homeworld
TMNT Vol. 1 #7 – All is Revealed
Gizmo and the Fugitoid #1
Gizmo and the Fugitoid #2
Grunts #1 – The Lesson
Shell Shock – Not One Word
Tales Vol. 1 #3 – All Hallow’s Thieves
Shell Shock – Ghoul’s Night Out
Shell Shock - Don't Judge a Book
Turtle Soup (one-shot) – The Howl
Turtle Soup (one-shot) - Apparition
Shell Shock - Junk Man
TMNT Vol. 1 #8 – Team Up with Cerebus
Turtle Soup (one-shot) – Turtle Dreams
Donatello #1 – Kirby and the Warp Crystal
Gobbledygook (Vol. 2) #1 – Crazy Man
Tales Vol. 1 #5 – Complete Carnage and Radical
Anything Goes! #5 – The Road Trip
Turtle Soup (one-shot) – Turtle Soup and Rabbit Stew
Usagi Yojimbo (Vol. 1) #10 – The Crossing
Shell Shock - The Treaty
Usagi Yojimbo (Vol. 2) #1 – Shades of Green part 1
Usagi Yojimbo (Vol. 2) #2 – Shades of Green part 2
Usagi Yojimbo (Vol. 2) #3 – Shades of Green part 3
Bodycount #1
Bodycount #2
Bodycount #3
Bodycount #4

Michelangelo #1 – The Christmas Aliens
Leonardo #1 – What Goes Around… Comes Around!
TMNT Vol. 1 #10 – Silent Partner


RETREAT TO THE FARMHOUSE

TMNT Vol. 1 #11 – True Stories
Tales Vol. 1 #1 – A Tale of the TMNT
TMNT Vol. 1 #12 – Survivalists
TMNT Vol. 1 #13 – The People’s Choice
TMNT Vol. 1 #14 – The Unmentionables
Mirage Mini Comics Collection story #11 – Casey Jones, Private Eye
TMNT Vol. 1 #15 – Dome Doom
Tales Vol. 2 #48 - The Decider
TMNT Vol. 1 #17 – Distractions
Tales Vol. 1 #2 – Nobody’s Fool
Tales Vol. 1 #4 – I, Monster
Tales Vol. 1 TPB - "Nobody"
Challenges – Origin
Challenges – Splinter
Challenges – Leonardo


RETURN TO NEW YORK

TMNT Vol. 1 #19 – Return to New York Part 1
TMNT Vol. 1 #20 – Return to New York Part 2
TMNT Vol. 1 #21 – Return to New York Part 3
Tales Vol. 2 #3 – The Worms of Madness Part 1
Tales Vol. 2 #4 – The Worms of Madness Part 2
Michelangelo #1 - A Christmas Carol
Tales Vol. 2 #53 - Ghosts of Christmas Past
Tales Vol. 2 #2 - Seeds of Destruction
Tales Vol. 2 #24 – Rock of Ages
Digital Webbing Presents #24 - Digital Webbing Presents Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Tales Vol. 1 #6 – Leatherhead
Tales Vol. 2 #26 – The Value of Gold
Shell Shock – Technofear
Shell Shock – New Comic Day
Tales Vol. 2 #25 – Kung Fu Theater
Tales Vol. 2 #3 – Green
Shell Shock – 49th Street Stompers
Challenges - Raphael
Casey Jones #1 – North by Down East part 1
Casey Jones #2 – North by Down East part 2
Tales Vol. 2 #37 – Casey in Point
Tales Vol. 2 #11 – The Quick and the Dead
Turtle Soup Vol. 2 #1 – Lucindra
TMNT Vol. 1 #44 – The Violent Underground
TMNT Vol. 1 #45 – Leatherhead, Too
Tales Vol. 2 #8 – Virus
Tales Vol. 2 #23 – Attack of the Replicants
Tales Vol. 2 #34 - Splinter Cell
Tales Vol. 2 #30 – Circle of Darkness
Tales Vol. 2 #50 – World’s Deadliest
Tales Vol. 2 #63 - Monster Island
Tales Vol. 1 #7 – The Return of Savanti Romero
Tales Vol. 1 TPB 2007 - Spinal Tapped
Shell Shock – 100,000,000 B.C.
Turtle Soup Vol. 2 #3 – Sweat, Sweat, Sweet Renet
Gobbledygook (Vol. 2) #1 – You Had to be There


RETURN TO NORTHAMPTON

TMNT Vol. 1 #24 – The River Part 1: Down to the River
TMNT Vol. 1 #25 – The River Part 2: River Hymn
TMNT Vol. 1 #26 – The River Part 3: Old Man River
TMNT Vol. 1 #27 – Dreams of Stone
TMNT Vol. 1 #29 – Men of Shadow
TMNT Vol. 1 #30 – Sky Highway
Turtle Soup Vol. 2 #1 – The Ring
TMNT Vol. 1 #37 – Twilight of the Ring
Challenges – Michelangelo
Challenges - Donatello
TMNT Vol. 1 #42 – Juliet’s Revenge
TMNT Vol. 1 #43 – Halls of Lost Legends
Turtle Soup Vol. 2 #1-4 – Turtles Attack
Turtle Soup Vol. 2 #1 – The Purpose of Fear
Turtle Soup Vol. 2 #3 – Crack in a Hard Heart
Tales Vol. 2 #30 – The Mother of All Anger
TMNT Vol. 1 #28 – Sons of the Silent Age
TMNT Vol. 1 #46 – Masks Part 1
TMNT Vol. 1 #47 – Masks Part 2


CITY AT WAR

Tales Vol. 2 #22 – Change of Power
TMNT Vol. 1 #48 – Shades of Grey Part 1
TMNT Vol. 1 #49 – Shades of Grey Part 2
TMNT Vol. 1 #50 – City at War Part 1
TMNT Vol. 1 #51 – City at War Part 2
TMNT Vol. 1 #52 – City at War Part 3
TMNT Vol. 1 #53 – City at War Part 4
Tales Vol. 2 #46 – Temps
TMNT Vol. 1 #54 – City at War Part 5
TMNT Vol. 1 #55 – City at War Part 6
TMNT Vol. 1 #56 – City at War Part 7
TMNT Vol. 1 #57 – City at War Part 8
TMNT Vol. 1 #58 – City at War Part 9
TMNT Vol. 1 #59 – City at War Part 10
TMNT Vol. 1 #60 – City at War Part 11
TMNT Vol. 1 #61 – City at War Part 12
TMNT Vol. 1 #62 – City at War Part 13


VOLUME 2

The Savage Dragon #2
The Savage Dragon/TMNT

Tales Vol. 2 #20 – The Trophy
Tales Vol. 2 #33 - Credo
Tales Vol. 2 #41 – Fathers and Daughters
TMNT Vol. 2 #1 – Memories of the Future
TMNT Vol. 2 #2 – Winds of Change
TMNT Vol. 2 #3 – Evolution
TMNT Vol. 2 #4 – Intruders
TMNT Vol. 2 #5 – Death Race
Tales Vol. 2 #20 – The Cure
TMNT Vol. 2 #6 – Killer on the Loose
TMNT Vol. 2 #7 – Confrontations
TMNT Vol. 2 #8 – Face Off
TMNT Vol. 2 #9 – Victory?
Donatello #1 – Brainthief part 1
Donatello #2 – Brainthief part 2
Donatello #3 – Brainthief part 3
Donatello #4 – Brainthief part 4
TMNT Vol. 2 #10 – Descending into D.A.R.P.A.
TMNT Vol. 2 #11 – The Rescue
TMNT Vol. 2 #12 – The Escape
TMNT Vol. 2 #13 – The Battle
Tales Vol. 2 #49 – Mined Games
Tales Vol. 2 #33 - The Bait
TMNT/Savage Dragon
The Savage Dragon #22



THE GANG WARS

Tales Vol. 2 #36 – To Serve and Protect
Tales Vol. 2 #56 - Hun
Tales Vol. 2 #59 – Expose
Tales Vol. 2 #61 – Sometimes They Come Back
Tales Vol. 2 #48 – One’s Shadow
Tales Vol. 2 #64 – The Burning Man


THE MISSING YEARS

Tales Vol. 2 #43 – The Proposal
TMNT Vol. 3 #1
TMNT Vol. 3 #2
TMNT Vol. 3 #3
TMNT Vol. 3 #4
TMNT Vol. 3 #5
TMNT Vol. 3 #6
TMNT Vol. 3 #7
TMNT Vol. 3 #8
TMNT Vol. 3 #9
TMNT Vol. 3 #10
TMNT Vol. 3 #11
TMNT Vol. 3 #12
TMNT Vol. 3 #13
TMNT Vol. 3 #14
TMNT Vol. 3 #15
TMNT Vol. 3 #16
TMNT Vol. 3 #17
TMNT Vol. 3 #18
TMNT Vol. 3 #19
TMNT Vol. 3 #20
TMNT Vol. 3 #21
TMNT Vol. 3 #22
TMNT Vol. 3 #23

Tales Vol. 2 #53 - Alien Invaders
Tales Vol. 2 #54 - Mere Appendix
Tales Vol. 2 #57 - The Gangs All Here
Tales Vol. 2 #9 – Community Service
Tales Vol. 2 #51 – Night of the Living Gingerbread
Tales Vol. 2 #9 – The Path
Tales Vol. 2 #35 - Secret Spirit
Tales Vol. 2 #5 – Blind Faith
Tales of Leo #1 – Blind Sight Part 1
Tales of Leo #2 – Blind Sight Part 2
Tales of Leo #3 – Blind Sight Part 3
Tales of Leo #4 – Blind Sight Part 4
Tales Vol. 2 #10 – Kaddish
Tales Vol. 2 #19 – A Ghost Story
Tales Vol. 2 #20 – The Rippling
Tales Vol. 2 #21 – A (Bull) Wrinkle in Time
Tales Vol. 2 #32 – The Eye of Aga-Moo-Tou


PRELUDE TO VOLUME 4

Tales Vol. 2 #6 – Scars
Tales Vol. 2 #7 – Darkness Weaves
Raphael #1 – Bad Moon Rising Part 1
Raphael #2 - Bad Moon Rising Part 2
Raphael #3 - Bad Moon Rising Part 3
Raphael #4 - Bad Moon Rising Part 4
Tales Vol. 2 #15 – Hell’s Blacktop
Tales Vol. 2 #42 – The Curious Case of Mr. Jones


VOLUME 4

Vol. 4 #1
Vol. 4 #2
Vol. 4 #3
Vol. 4 #4
Vol. 4 #5
Michelangelo #1 - The Third Kind Part 1
Michelangelo #2 – The Third Kind Part 2
Michelangelo #3 – The Third Kind Part 3
Michelangelo #4 – The Third Kind Part 4
Tales Vol. 2 #62 – Adventures in Bunnysitting
Tales Vol. 2 #16 – Sins of the Past (possibly Post-Vol.4)
Tales Vol. 2 #29 – Soul Survivor (possibly Post-Vol.4)
Tales Vol. 2 #18 – The Blue Hole
Tales Vol. 2 #28 – Channeling
Tales Vol. 2 #28 – Shanghaid
Tales Vol. 2 #45 - Rocks
Tales Vol. 2 #39 – What Wolves Wear
Tales Vol. 2 #31 – Reflections
Tales Vol. 2 #10 – The Question
Tales Vol. 2 #14 – First Mud
Tales Vol. 2 #15 – Apocalypse Vow
Tales Vol. 2 #18 – Altered Fates
Tales Vol. 2 #25 – The Doors of Deception
Tales Vol. 2 #4 – The Grape
Tales Vol. 2 #6 – The Raisin
Tales Vol. 2 #8 – The Risen
Tales Vol. 2 #52 – The Crystal at the Heart of the World
Tales Vol. 2 #58 – All Tomorrow’s Yesterdays
Vol. 4 #6
Vol. 4 #7
Tales Vol. 2 #47 – The Secret Origins of the Super Turtles!!!
Vol. 4 #8
Vol. 4 #9
Vol. 4 #10
Vol. 4 #11
Tales Vol. 2 #17 – Wrong Turn
Vol. 4 #12
Vol. 4 #13
Vol. 4 #14
Vol. 4 #15
Vol. 4 #16
Vol. 4 #17
Vol. 4 #18
Vol. 4 #19
Vol. 4 #20
Vol. 4 #21
Vol. 4 #22
Vol. 4 #23
Tales Vol. 2 #60 – Nobody Does it Better
Vol. 4 #24
Vol. 4 #25
Vol. 4 #26
Vol. 4 #27
Vol. 4 #28
Tales Vol. 2 #27 – White Horse
Vol. 4 #29
Vol. 4 #30

POST VOLUME 4

Tales Vol. 2 #12 – Paris Nocturne

THE FUTURE

Tales Vol. 2 #40 – Silent Knight
The Puma Blues #20 - Choices
Tales Vol. 2 #41 – Swan Song
Plastron CafĂ© #1 – Old Times
Tales Vol. 1 TPB 2007 – Frontispieces and Conclusion

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Old 11-25-2009, 08:52 PM   #53
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I'd definitely love to see this, sorry I can't contribute though lol
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Do I want to see a fan-fiction ending for Volume 3? Not particularly.

Do I want to see an accurate adaptation of Gary's ideas as would fit into two issues? Yes.

If this can be more the latter, then I'm totally looking foward to it. I don't have the artistic chops to help though.
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Do I want to see a fan-fiction ending for Volume 3? Not particularly.
Nothing is getting made that Gary isn't 100% behind.
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:04 PM   #56
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I'm not sure what kind of help I could be with this project, but yeah, I would like to see it so long as it maintains the feel and integrity of the Image series. You know, so long as it doesn't turn out like that webcomic continuation of the Old Toon where everyone was getting naked and killing each other.

But I don't think that's gonna happen and the fact that Carlson's onboard is really cool.

We may not get Forever War. We may not get the rest of Vol. 4. We may not get the end of Gang Wars. We may not get the rest of Change of Power.

But I *would* like to get this.
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I didn't really think so. Just making sure.
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:16 PM   #58
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OMG I can't beleive my own suggestion for Frank Fosco has come through. AndrewNDB your doing a great job with this idea. Would the covers be in color? What are you calling these issues by title? 'Cause I thought the Nicko buyout might hamper any chance of using the TMNT title or something (or if you say unofficial). I'd wish I could try and draw this, but it seems like you you may have the guy. Honestly I'd have to look at this series again to get into the flow. I can't find all my old drawings to email to you. Even if I drew this, I don't think I can do any of this formatting stuff. I only have a scanner. I may still try to email you some drawings though.
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You've already been a great help.
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Iz bee bop and rok stedi gona bee in it i dont kare if tere not.

I'm kidding of course. I bought the Kurgan issues just because of your involvement, and I'd be glad to see this project in its finished state as well.
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