09-24-2012, 08:47 PM | #41 |
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Tang Shen will be an elder version of Venus.
Mother Turtle. Her magic powers will save the day.
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Keep stating your point as much as you want about Tang Shen's death not being necessary to drive the story, but the fact is that in this world it happened and has a lasting effect that would be tarnished if it were revealed that she were reincarnated and alive. Last edited by FoxZerro; 09-25-2012 at 10:08 AM. |
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many can claim that the OT did not incorporate Tang Shen... and for that universe it worked. but different universe... different rules... different outcomes. Maybe the phrase should be reworded: "IDW Tang Shen is the IDW TMNT equivalent to Uncle Ben and Martha/Thomas Wayne." Last edited by Lampy; 09-25-2012 at 09:48 AM. |
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i think naysayers of this statement are thinking of TMNT as a whole... as a franchise. and in most incarnations... the statement is true. but what makes this statement so easy to shoot down is that the most (arguably) famous incarnation of the franchise does not include a Tang Shen.
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People always say that, but I strongly disagree. I feel like the movie trilogy is the most popular.
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09-25-2012, 12:34 PM | #48 |
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I think it's possible, but with the crazy amounts of merchandise (t-shirts, toys, video games, etc.) that are tied in with the cartoon, heck even the movies tie back to it, I'd still argue that Fred Wolf is what most people associate TMNT with. I guess they all tie into each other so much that it becomes a little less clear cut, but the cartoon is definitely what started it all, which is where the argument comes from.
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It'd be cool to talk to some kids who were introduced to TMNT by the 4kids show...
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Boy, this thread that originally derailed a different thread has been officially derailed itself! To contribute to the actual topic, I think the cartoon is why I would definitely say that the argument that Tang Shen is TMNT's Uncle Ben is a bit overstated. The turtles are not defined by her death, they are indirectly created by it. I guess you could say Tang Shen is more in line with the radioactive spider that bit Peter Parker. They're both important, but I don't think it necessarily changes the turtles' core characters if something were to be changed. They are just there to give them their "powers" in their origin stories. Arguably, even the spider is more important than Tang Shen. Tang Shen was just there to give Yoshi & Saki an excuse (from the writer's standpoint) to feud and thus create the turtles' pathway to ninjitsu, but Uncle Ben gives Spider-man a reason for his actions and beliefs. If Tang Shen comes back, the turtles won't stop knowing ninjitsu, but if Uncle Ben were to come back, the lesson and the consequences of Peter Parker's actions learned would be lessened. I'm not saying I want her to come back, I'm just throwing my two cents on her importance to the turtles' origin. Splinter is definitely TMNT's Uncle Ben. The turtles would not be who they are, as characters or ninjas, without him.
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Tang Shen is Old Hob!
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but interesting point of view matches... not sure i agree with it... but very interesting. i've never thought of it like that. the radioactive spider never crossed my mind. if you're right... and doing by your judgment on the subject alone... if tang shen came back and one character's actions were to change... it'd be splinter. so in a sense... by what you stated up here... Tang Shen is Splinter's Uncle Ben... not the Turtles. Should she be reincarnated... the one person who'd be affected the most would indeed be splinter and as a result the turtles follow suit. interesting 2 cents, matches. |
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