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Old 03-21-2017, 12:48 PM   #21
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All the best, Mr Eastman. Please do not get discouraged by trolls.
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Old 03-21-2017, 01:30 PM   #22
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yes men r us?


just a guess.....

we all have faults...kevin is no different.


like i said before, we should all be as open to new things...but constantly open regardless of quality is something a tad different..
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:33 PM   #23
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just a guess.....

we all have faults...kevin is no different.


like i said before, we should all be as open to new things...but constantly open regardless of quality is something a tad different..
No one is forcing you to watch it, no one is forcing you to talk about it. I love Keaton's Batman, but I don't really pay attention to Bat Mite or Crazy Quilt ...and I sleep VERY well at night.

TMNT was an independent comic/kid property from the 80s-- an area that isn't known for consistent quality throughout every licensed production. The proverbial "cool kid in a candy store comic nerd that struck it rich" Eastman gets excited about projects and promotes them. He gets paid, big shocker. This shouldn't be surprising anymore.

I think it's super cool he's opening up another channel of communication for fans.
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Old 03-21-2017, 04:06 PM   #24
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just a guess.....

we all have faults...kevin is no different.


like i said before, we should all be as open to new things...but constantly open regardless of quality is something a tad different..
How is being an optimist a fault? I like that he can find something good in everything, even if it's bad or enjoy it for what it is.
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I feel sorry for him. he genuinely thinks everyhing is great. no matter how bad it is. where as peter is kind of the opposite. everything needs to be perfect or done his way or else it's an abomination.

I kind of like peter's way better these days
Why feel bad though? It must be great to love any and every thing regardless of quality.

Poor Peter seems to get all hung up on it. For the benefit of the property, but still.
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I never thought we'd live in a world where 50-60+ year old men start youtube channels and social media accounts. These people didn't even grow up with the internet when they were younger, it didn't even exist till they were like 35 or so.
His wife is younger than we are, CC.
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How is being an optimist a fault? I like that he can find something good in everything, even if it's bad or enjoy it for what it is.
I agree with this.

I don't really follow Kevin or Peter but every time he's brought up people say he likes everything and will promote anything. Like all he cares about is having more TMNT?

I'm sure he does not like everything. He probably doesn't see a need to trash or bad mouth things.

Besides if you sell a franchise you're not in the best position to complain about what others do to it.
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Old 03-22-2017, 06:58 AM   #28
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How is being an optimist a fault? I like that he can find something good in everything, even if it's bad or enjoy it for what it is.
being blind to bad quality isn't all that great.

didn't he compare bay turtles to avengers at one point?


I understand he was probably contractually obligated to promote the thing somehow....since i think he had a small part in it. but still..
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Kevin is just a conundrum to me. He seems really scattered these days-- I remember reading an interview where he referred to Karai as being Shredder's daughter but in Mirage she wasn't. She was just a woman chosen to bring order to the New York Foot by the main branch of the clan in Japan. The daughter of Shredder motif wasn't used until the 4Kids show aired.

I remember another interview where Eastman blames the failure of Next Mutation on the toy line. If anything the toyline was one of the best things about Next Mutation.

His support of Leif Tilden passing off random bo staffs as legitimate movie props is also kind of... strange. Kevin has always been a promoter. At the end of the day, it's about money for him. He isn't nearly as knowledgeable with regards to the property he helped create as it's diehard fans are. Peter on the other hand seemed to just keep throwing more and more money at TMNT so that he could shape it how he wanted it. There's no doubt that this contributed to his burn out. I don't blame Eastman for taking a job as a consultant for Nick and IDW since they probably worship him like a god there. Peter is very opinionated and seems like he has to have everything his way so it isn't much of a surprise that they eventually parted ways.
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yep.

i kind of wonder if they where always like that, or if one got that way because of the other.

kevin started being lax about everything and tried to be happy and positive with all the riggors of business driving people down..

where as peter went the opposite route and tried to take charge and control to try and keep things in order.

personally, at this stage i find peter's way worked better. we got 4 great years of tmnt with 4kids because of it, until playmates or someone tried to take control with fast forward.
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Kevin is just a conundrum to me. He seems really scattered these days-- I remember reading an interview where he referred to Karai as being Shredder's daughter but in Mirage she wasn't.
Didn't he say that in one of the IDW trades collecting City at War? I thought I'd read that.

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She was just a woman chosen to bring order to the New York Foot by the main branch of the clan in Japan. The daughter of Shredder motif wasn't used until the 4Kids show aired.
Correct. Apparently having her be her own woman and Shredder's boss wasn't satisfactory... she had to be the underling and daughter of Shredder to "work" as a character.

I'm shocked more fans aren't upset about that, particularly female fans.

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yep.

i kind of wonder if they where always like that, or if one got that way because of the other.

kevin started being lax about everything and tried to be happy and positive with all the riggors of business driving people down..

where as peter went the opposite route and tried to take charge and control to try and keep things in order.

personally, at this stage i find peter's way worked better. we got 4 great years of tmnt with 4kids because of it, until playmates or someone tried to take control with fast forward.
No matter how you look at it, the decisions made for NT:TNM caused the rift one way or another.

NT:TNM: Kevin saying, "Let's try it my way." While Peter sat quietly in the corner.
4Kids: Peter saying, "Well that didn't work, and why would it? Let's try it my way... and by the way, Kevin, let me buy out your half of the damn TMNT rights while I'm at it."
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:36 AM   #32
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I'm shocked more fans aren't upset about that, particularly female fans.
It drives me nuts, personally.

Especially since Saki's actual daughter is a completely different character that everyone seems to forget.

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His wife is younger than we are, CC.
You mean his wife is in her 20's? What?
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It drives me nuts, personally.

Especially since Saki's actual daughter is a completely different character that everyone seems to forget.
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You mean his wife is in her 20's? What?
You don't know who Courtney Eastman is?
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Karai had such a great entrance in City at War. I liked the dynamic it set up within the Foot Clan across the globe.

Shame they haven't integrated that back into her character.
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Karai had such a great entrance in City at War. I liked the dynamic it set up within the Foot Clan across the globe.

Shame they haven't integrated that back into her character.
Nope, it's always either daughter of Shredder, or FAKE daughter of Shredder. But always clearly lesser than Shredder, his underling and fundamentally connected to him in some way.
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You mean his wife is in her 20's? What?

I take that back-- she's almost 31. Still younger than many of us, and she was still in her twenties when she married him four years ago.
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Is it just me or -- and I don't mean this in a bad way -- as Kevin gets older, more and more he begins to resemble... Peter Laird?
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I take that back-- she's almost 31. Still younger than many of us, and she was still in her twenties when she married him four years ago.
And Kevin is almost 60 now, right? So basically he married a golddigger? I mean there's no reason a woman would marry a guy 30 years older than her if she wasn't in it for the money, especially since Eastman is a millionaire.
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