Unite behind a reboot-a change of heart

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by pferreira

Seriously? You want Baxter to be upset?

Such a simple sentence to read, not even ten words long and you misunderstand it... Truly, I'm baffled!

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Such a simple sentence to read, not even ten words long and you misunderstand it... Truly, I'm baffled!

No I answered it correctly. I'm not sure why'd you want to replace a laughing lunatic Baxter with a constantly upset Baxter. It's such a strange nitpick if that's why people didn't like Baxter in the PD movie.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by pferreira

No I answered it correctly. I'm not sure why'd you want to replace a laughing lunatic Baxter with a constantly upset Baxter. It's such a strange nitpick if that's why people didn't like Baxter in the PD movie.

Because one of them is a better character?

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Because one of them is a better character?

How?! Both are OTT and annoying. They're both lunatics so they serve the same function so again not sure why both Baxter's are so different.

[Candy Kappa]

PD Baxter was not like the FW version or the 2k3 Baxter, he was a low-rent Eddie Murphy Nutty Proffessor riff

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by pferreira

How?! Both are OTT and annoying. They're both lunatics so they serve the same function so again not sure why both Baxter's are so different.

How is 4Kids Baxter annoying and how is he nearly as annoying?

4Kids Baxter has plans of his own, he's arrogant and plays an active role throughout, not to mention a backstory that informs who he is. OotS Baxter laughed all the time for no reason and was essentially just there to push buttons on a console, that's the difference.

It's honestly shocking that you don't see any important difference.

[pferreira]

Originally Posted by neatoman

4Kids Baxter has plans of his own, he's arrogant and plays an active role throughout, not to mention a backstory that informs who he is. OotS Baxter laughed all the time for no reason and was essentially just there to push buttons on a console, that's the difference.

It's honestly shocking that you don't see any important difference.

I don't see the difference. Both Baxter's had their own evil intentions, both wanted to become famous, both were arrogant. The difference is one was jolly jerk, the other was an angry jerk.

[AquaParade]

You're all greasin my wheels with all this talk of Triceratons, City at War, and a badass Saki.

[Weapons@theready]

I could definitely go for a edgier Mirage based trilogy. I would go Nolan verse style though and save Shredder for the second movie the way they saved Joker for TDK.

Movie 1: Not an origin, maybe a quick silent montage at the start of the movie to show us how the Turtles came to be. First movie focuses on the Purple Dragons initially but they are brought into contact with Baxter Stockman after the Turtles foil their plans, we get some intense mouser action. The end of the movie reveals that Shredder is behind the Purple Dragons/Stockman connection and he dons his armor saying he will take care of the Hamato clan himself.

Movie 2: Is the classic Foot vs Turtles movie with the Shredder boss battle at the end.

Movie 3: City at War

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Weapons@theready

I could definitely go for a edgier Mirage based trilogy. I would go Nolan verse style though and save Shredder for the second movie the way they saved Joker for TDK.

Movie 1: Not an origin, maybe a quick silent montage at the start of the movie to show us how the Turtles came to be. First movie focuses on the Purple Dragons initially but they are brought into contact with Baxter Stockman after the Turtles foil their plans, we get some intense mouser action. The end of the movie reveals that Shredder is behind the Purple Dragons/Stockman connection and he dons his armor saying he will take care of the Hamato clan himself.

Movie 2: Is the classic Foot vs Turtles movie with the Shredder boss battle at the end.

Movie 3: City at War

We could skip Shredder almost completely and I dunno, do something new for the big screen... like Fugitoid & the Triceratons.... Who wouldn't like to see friggen Triceratons on the big screen?!

Movie one is a quick origin & post Shredder recap in the intro, go Purple Dragons and Baxter/mousers & end with Baxters defeat & Fugitoid running to the transmat. Then 2nd film backs up a bit with Fugitoid origin before credits, opening credits show scenes from the last film and Fugitoid transporting to the Turtles or the Turtles to him... and Triceratons... ends with them all going back to earth... third movie Shredder clones in the opening sequence, Karai and the City at War... end that with Utroms coming to earth... if a 4th movie happens, aliens on earth, turtles get to live in the open.... maybe do the v4 mini series, Leo Blind Sight, Donnie Brain Thief, Raph (forget what that ones called...lol) with vampires and well, start with the Mikey mini (third kind) since his deals directly with aliens showing up and them being able to go topside during the day...

We had Shredder in the movie, secret of the ooze and then the two horrid reboot movies... time to move along from him. Plus a 4th movie could give us Che'rell (or whatever) and it could end with him jn the Shredder armor.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't think TMNT can quite afford to do a Batman Begins and withhold the Joker until movie #2, so to speak. It's not Batman.

The way I look at it, we haven't even seen a proper Shredder on the big screen for 30 years, and even then... ehhh, so-so.

Kick the door open with a bad-ass Oroku Saki. That's what I say.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Personally, I'd love to see Leatherhead, rat king, Hun, and a properly done Karai and Baxter as characters in movie one and two, With shredder being a big bad, giving orders and sending the foot out, until he has the fight with the TMNT at the end of the third film. Give hints of his prowess in the first two films- show him fighting in the flashbacks with Yoshi, and sparring with the foot, before breaking him out as a total beast in movie three.

No matter if the franchise is grim and gritty or not, Shredder will ALWAYS be seen as the big bad of the franchise. He should be held off for a big finale, tying up the circle, and bringing vengeance for the death of Yoshi and Shen. You can always follow that with a 'city at war', but he should be given a proper multi-movie buildup.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Personally, I'd love to see Leatherhead, rat king, Hun, and a properly done Karai and Baxter as characters in movie one and two, With shredder being a big bad, giving orders and sending the foot out, until he has the fight with the TMNT at the end of the third film. Give hints of his prowess in the first two films- show him fighting in the flashbacks with Yoshi, and sparring with the foot, before breaking him out as a total beast in movie three.

No matter if the franchise is grim and gritty or not, Shredder will ALWAYS be seen as the big bad of the franchise. He should be held off for a big finale, tying up the circle, and bringing vengeance for the death of Yoshi and Shen. You can always follow that with a 'city at war', but he should be given a proper multi-movie buildup.

But then you're into Thanos Boredom territory.

"Oh, look, the big scary bad guy hasn't gotten off his damn chair yet. How many more movies do we have to wait?"