Season 5 Discussion Thread

[FredWolfLeonardo]

The only thing that bugs me a little is knowing how grimly said special would end. Sure, they are re-united happily ever after in the Mutant Apocalypse, but I wonder how exactly this special will end, as its own thing seperate from the show.

Maybe with a message of hope, as Raphael and Donatello are determined to keep surviving amd find their brothers after the Mutagen Bomb goes off?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I wonder if this will be the "true" finale to the series as we know it, similar to how Turtles Forever was released as a seperate movie from the 2k3 series yet was the offical finale of that show.

Depends if its the final time the 2012 series is revisited.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

The only thing that bugs me a little is knowing how grimly said special would end. Sure, they are re-united happily ever after in the Mutant Apocalypse, but I wonder how exactly this special will end, as its own thing seperate from the show.

Maybe with a message of hope, as Raphael and Donatello are determined to keep surviving amd find their brothers after the Mutagen Bomb goes off?

Yeah there is that. They said it answers Gripes but it may mean how the Kraang came back, so we know it takes place before and lays the story for the finale but what point they go to? like being a story of it's own which we know is before the bomb or going right up to the bomb or just after.

[JH24]

Originally Posted by newfan

Probably the wrong place to stick this but Ciro is still working on his story that he hopes will be a video release at some point if Nick will go for it, he said it would fill the gaps that a lot of the fans have a gripe with over the apocalypse. It seems he hasn't given up yet. Apparently a mix between invasion of the body snatchers and the Blob. (turtles are about 20) I wonder if he would be allowed to realise it in another format even if they shot down the movie, I'd be interested to see what his 20-year-old turtles look like, if any different.

I would love that so much. Seriously, even though I realize chances are low, just the idea already makes me hyped. 20-year old turtles? A Kraang entity? A new story and adventure? Man, they could have made a new season around that if they wanted to.

Not to mention the emotional weight such a season or movie would carry with it. Seeing your favorite characters return yet also knowing what has to happen in the end.

I hope Ciro is able to make it into a video release one day. It would add so much to this series and storyline.

[CyberCubed]

20 year old Turtles would probably just look like the standard Turtle designs in every other series, since Nick's standard designs made them look like actual 15 year olds the first time.

[newfan]

The finale starts airing tomorrow, they never air them as a movie here, so next weekend for the last part.

[jignat]

Hi guys I stopped watching the show in late season 3 and catching up on it.

Does anyone have a chronological watch order for Season 5?

I thought the big blowout was the last episode story wise, but some threads are saying the mutant apocalypse arc is the end?

Thanks.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by jignat

Hi guys I stopped watching the show in late season 3 and catching up on it.

Does anyone have a chronological watch order for Season 5?

I thought the big blowout was the last episode story wise, but some threads are saying the mutant apocalypse arc is the end?

Thanks.

Here you go

Scroll of the Demodragon
The Forgotten Swordsman
Heart of Evil
End Times
Lone Rat and Cubs
Curse of Savanti Romero
The Crypt of Dracula
The Frankenstein Experiment
Monsters Among Us
When Worlds Collide Part 1
When Worlds Collide Part 2
Wanted Bebop and Rocksteady
The Foot Walks Again
The Big Blow Out
Yojimbo
Osoroshi no Tabi
Kagayake! Kintaro
The Wasteland Warrior
The Impossible Desert
Carmageddon

[newhire13]

Watching the turtle’s reaction to the ending of Cognard in ‘Dinosaur Seen In Sewer!’ makes me appreciate the shows final episode so much more lmao. Definitely the crew’s prediction as to how people would react to the ending lol.
“Not even like a TV movie or something?”

[Donatello19]

Are all the stories in Season 5, specifically Mutant Apocalypse, even canon? I've heard the concept of it just being a "what if" extra season thrown around, and I'm pretty confused.

I'd be happy if it wasn't canon, because Owari was a much better finale for the show than whatever the heck Mutant Apocalypse was supposed to be.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Are all the stories in Season 5, specifically Mutant Apocalypse, even canon? I've heard the concept of it just being a "what if" extra season thrown around, and I'm pretty confused.

I'd be happy if it wasn't canon, because Owari was a much better finale for the show than whatever the heck Mutant Apocalypse was supposed to be.

There's been tons of talk on that here. In short, to the writers, yes and most go with that.

TMNT twitter account replied to someone who said Apocalypse wasn't and said 'correct' and then described season 5 as tales from beyond or something like that, so there's the confusion.
I think also, it was said that up to the end of season 4 was the main story they wanted to tell and that 5 would be fun tales, so you can choose to end with 4 if you want, however just because adventures happened after that story shouldn't have to mean they didn't happen.

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Are all the stories in Season 5, specifically Mutant Apocalypse, even canon? I've heard the concept of it just being a "what if" extra season thrown around, and I'm pretty confused.

I'd be happy if it wasn't canon, because Owari was a much better finale for the show than whatever the heck Mutant Apocalypse was supposed to be.

Originally Posted by newfan

There's been tons of talk on that here.
To the writers, yes it is and most are going that.
TMNT twitter account replied to someone who said it wasn't and said 'correct' and then described season 5 as tales from beyond or something like that, so there's the confusion.

Redworld spoke to someone who works on the show and have said that the Kavaxas Arc is the true ending and the other arcs are just extra stories. There is a screen shot of that conversation somewhere.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Redworld spoke to someone who works on the show and have said that the Kavaxas Arc is the true ending and the other arcs are just extra stories. There is a screen shot of that conversation somewhere.

Yeah, the only ones that feel cannon are the Kavaxas Arc and the Lone Rat and Cubs.


Kavaxas arc being an epilogue to the series and Lone Rat being just a flash back and a swan song for Splinter.

Since each of the seasons had their own centralized theme according to Blockbuster Buster

Season 1 was choices and conciquences

Season 2 was atonement

Season 3 was growing up

Season 4 was graduation

If season 5 had followed the same trend it’s central theme would have been Adulthood.

[newhire13]

The Mutant Apocalypse is definitely canon. That’s the ending in the sense that we know what happens after the show’s main storyline and after the turtles eventually grow up. It’s left open enough that you know there will probably be adventures for them after that but for us it just shows that, down the line, the turtles are still out there and still together.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Redworld spoke to someone who works on the show and have said that the Kavaxas Arc is the true ending and the other arcs are just extra stories. There is a screen shot of that conversation somewhere.

Unless that person was Ciro, their word holds no weight.

[CyberCubed]

LOL, that's all nonsense. Of course every episode of Season 5 is canon. They meant the order of Season 5 can be watched in almost any order (besides the first arc and Mutant Apocalypse), because each story arc is self contained.

I don't where this "what if" nonsense is coming from.

[Dejablue]

Oh man...Mutant Apocalypse. What a messed up way to end the series.

Its so sad! Like..is it reeeaallly canon?

Even if it is, I guess I can accept it. Sort of. At least the brothers are still together.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Dejablue

Oh man...Mutant Apocalypse. What a messed up way to end the series.

Its so sad! Like..is it reeeaallly canon?

Even if it is, I guess I can accept it. Sort of. At least the brothers are still together.

Yes, it's canon. Nothing about the other episodes really contradict it, there's no implication that it's an alternate timeline or anything. Not that it matters, if there were to be a comic book continuation or something it'd be easy to retcon. Just say that it was a simulation or have Renet pop up to reset everything, it's just that kind of show.

[Optimus Primer]

I'm really glad Ciro is trying to do the pre-Mutant Apocalypse story still. I still remember when Ciro first mentioned it in a panel after a Monster arc screening, about the Kraang sludge from the Hudson River turning into a blob Kraang.
(Here's that panel thread: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=58950)

[Vegita-San]

i'm really glad he's not. sounds like more stupid monster/horror fan fiction. this time a blob tribute. i can see why nick decided to pass.