March against revenge porn

[Candy Kappa]

I guess Cubed never heard of Victorian era porn

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Um, the radio, camera, and movie industries would like a word with you.....

Movies were made by the rich and for the rich. TV wasn't even owned by most households until the mid 1950's.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

No actually the first movies were made on shoestring budgets and shown for mere pennies as "low" entertainment. And what does having a TV or not have to do with anything? Just because not everyone had one doesn't mean it didn't exist. I guarantee you that they had radios and cameras. TV wasn't even invented until around 1950 but it caught on quickly once it was. The technology for moving pictures has been around since the late 1800's, and some of the earliest ones WERE porn for the time. Sheesh learn a little history!

[Rooish]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

That's very liberal and extreme of you. People can learn from others mistakes and make better choices of NOT sending nudes to every last person they "date" or hookup with. It didn't take me getting drunk to know I didn't want to do so. I watched my friends drink until they couldn't stand up.

Accept responsibility for your own actions is all I'm saying. Don't want naked pictures to haunt you, don't take them and stick them on Twitter or snapchat or text them or IM to anyone. Sharing it with someone almost 100% guarantees someone else will see them. To think otherwise is pretty stupid.

Making a dumb decision that can ruin your life is bad.

Ruining someone's life is worse.

[sdp]

It boggles my mind how anyone would try to imply that any teenager had the technology to easily take nude pictures and videos and send them to their significant others decades ago. I know you're trying to prove a point but because someone may have done it doesn't mean that was an issue in the past, this is clearly an issue that arose in the past decade. Even in the early 00's these things were rare, it really didn't hit it big until smartphones became mainstream and most could afford one.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Accept responsibility for your own actions is all I'm saying.

So this is the advice you would give the person being violated, but not the person sending out private pictures of naked people for everyone to see?

(That was rhetorical, I already know you're a knuckle-dragging xenophobic bigot and a jerk. Just wanted to further highlight it.)

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I guess Cubed never heard of Victorian era porn

He hasn't heard of a lot of things. We STILL haven't told him what a queef was.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Movies were made by the rich and for the rich. TV wasn't even owned by most households until the mid 1950's.

My grandmother(born in the 20s) told me that before TV was a thing pople would go to the cinema to watch the news and cartoons.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

So this is the advice you would give the person being violated, but not the person sending out private pictures of naked people for everyone to see?

(That was rhetorical, I already know you're a knuckle-dragging xenophobic bigot and a jerk. Just wanted to further highlight it.)



He hasn't heard of a lot of things. We STILL haven't told him what a queef was.

Obviously if the person taking nude selfies didn't, there wouldn't be issues of them getting out there. And obviously, you can't read because I did say that its also not right for people to show off other peoples nudes.

Please, I'm not a jerk. I'm a high brow a$$hole. Get it right, please.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Your grandparents? Aren't they from the early 1900's?

Hell my grandparents were born in 1927-1930, so that means they largely grew up in the late 40's and 50's. They didn't have technology back then.

Cameras existed...

[BubblyShell22]

I agree that people shouldn't be doing stuff like this, but at the same time, using something like this to get back at someone and ruining them is not the way to go about things. Awareness should be made on both sides of the issue and not just one side.

[AT-Man]

People should be taught not to give a damn about anyone's nudes.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

And obviously, you can't read because I did say that its also not right for people to show off other peoples nudes.

I read a lot. Show me where you said that.

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

If you don't take them, they can't exist to be used as "revenge".

Also, polaroids are kind of back.... mini printer that connects to a phone... lol

I'd trust a partner to see me naked, but I wouldn't take any kind of digital image of myself or partner bare a$$ed. Its not a neccessity in life.

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

That's very liberal and extreme of you. People can learn from others mistakes and make better choices of NOT sending nudes to every last person they "date" or hookup with. It didn't take me getting drunk to know I didn't want to do so. I watched my friends drink until they couldn't stand up.

Accept responsibility for your own actions is all I'm saying. Don't want naked pictures to haunt you, don't take them and stick them on Twitter or snapchat or text them or IM to anyone. Sharing it with someone almost 100% guarantees someone else will see them. To think otherwise is pretty stupid.

Anyways, to put it in terms you'd understand. How would you feel if you lent a friend a gun, and he dinged it up, didn't clean it, and let strangers use it for target practice? And then you had no legal recourse.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I read a lot. Show me where you said that.





Anyways, to put it in terms you'd understand. How would you feel if you lent a friend a gun, and he dinged it up, didn't clean it, and let strangers use it for target practice? And then you had no legal recourse.

Well, see. I don't lend my guns to friends. If I'm shooting and my friend is there with me, sure. But I'm not handing over my gun to them and letting them leave. That would be irresponsible. Duh.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Well, see. I don't lend my guns to friends. If I'm shooting and my friend is there with me, sure. But I'm not handing over my gun to them and letting them leave. That would be irresponsible. Duh.

Ok, so you decide you guys are done shooting for the day (this is the break up), but then he dosen't return your gun and does things with it you rather he wouldn't (this is the revenge porn). And, again, you have no legal recourse. How do you feel about that?

A lot of liberals would say you shouldn't have had that gun at the range or even owned it in the first place. You and I both know that's bullsh*t though (and the equivalent of your own victim blaming). Just like people violating others' privacy with revenge porn is bullsh*t.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Ok, so you decide you guys are done shooting for the day (this is the break up), but then he dosen't return your gun and does things with it you rather he wouldn't (this is the revenge porn). And, again, you have no legal recourse. How do you feel about that?

A lot of liberals would say you shouldn't have had that gun at the range or even owned it in the first place. You and I both know that's bullsh*t though (and the equivalent of your own victim blaming). Just like people violating others' privacy with revenge porn is bullsh*t.

What you are suggesting is irresponsible gun ownership. My gun would not be that far away from me that my "friend" would do something reckless with it. I'm not a very trusting person. I got burned once. I learned from that.

Both parties are wrong. Kids should be taugh again higher morals. Will they stick with them, not likely all of them. Some will, some won't. Bottom line is that it is out there that this stuff happens, yet kids and young adults send the pictures to people who likely have shown themselves to not be worthy of the trust they have been given. If you as an individual do not want your naked pictures on the internet, don't share them.

I like to tell people that its not just you and that person thats getting to see that @$$ anyways... somewhere along the lines, there is most definitely illegal storage of images happening... we have seen that to be true with credit card info at the stores we all shop at and they have data breaches. I'm okay with teaching everyone just to not send those pics. The ones that still do so, will likely have the unfortunate event that they trust the wrong person. Celebs have their nudes hacked or release them on their own if their lights fading...

Its the world we live in today. Does it mean thats right? No, it just means you personally have a responsibility to reduce the chances it could happen to you. I have the responisbility to make sure it doesn't happen to me. And so on. If you still send nudes and that person shares them, I really don't feel bad. People are a$$holes.

[Cure]

It's nice to know who the real pieces of **** in this place are. Thanks, thread.

[ssjup81]

I still feel that girls should be taught that you shouldn't have to take nude photos of yourself for a guy to like you. I feel this is a big problem too.

[DestronMirage22]

I don't understand the whole giving nude pics thing (as sex/nudity is the last thing in my mind in regards to love) but I can at least understand the situation these people find themselves in. There's no worse feeling than having an extreme trust broken, or finding yourself in a situation you desperately need to get out of but can't no matter what you try. Top it all off with the embarrassment of others seeing you at your most vulnerable, and it can make for a horrible time. I feel for those who have to go through these horrible situations, and hope this kind of thing eventually goes down.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

What you are suggesting is irresponsible gun ownership. My gun would not be that far away from me that my "friend" would do something reckless with it. I'm not a very trusting person. I got burned once. I learned from that.

A gun is your property, your body is your property. Therfore you have every right to decide which parts of it are exposed and to who.

But whatever, we're done here. You refuse to play by the rules of my hypothetical situation. I laid the parallels out plain as day. You're either a simpleton or a sore loser. Probably both.

Both parties are wrong. Kids should be taugh again higher morals. Will they stick with them, not likely all of them. Some will, some won't. Bottom line is that it is out there that this stuff happens, yet kids and young adults send the pictures to people who likely have shown themselves to not be worthy of the trust they have been given. If you as an individual do not want your naked pictures on the internet, don't share them.

I like to tell people that its not just you and that person thats getting to see that @$$ anyways... somewhere along the lines, there is most definitely illegal storage of images happening... we have seen that to be true with credit card info at the stores we all shop at and they have data breaches. I'm okay with teaching everyone just to not send those pics. The ones that still do so, will likely have the unfortunate event that they trust the wrong person. Celebs have their nudes hacked or release them on their own if their lights fading...

Its the world we live in today. Does it mean thats right? No, it just means you personally have a responsibility to reduce the chances it could happen to you. I have the responisbility to make sure it doesn't happen to me. And so on. If you still send nudes and that person shares them, I really don't feel bad. People are a$$holes.

All I'm getting from this is that you're a virgin and kinda salty about it.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

I still feel that girls should be taught that you shouldn't have to take nude photos of yourself for a guy to like you. I feel this is a big problem too.

I agree and that they should be taught common sense when it comes to these things. But at the same time, I definitely feel where they're coming from as they usually mean it to be a private thing and not something that will get shared around. Then they have this breach of trust from the person who gets wronged for some reason so the wronged person goes and shares it and the other person's life is ruined. That can be damaging and that's why there needs to be more education about this thing.

But going back to Nines' example, let's say you let someone borrow your gun and he uses it to kill people. Then your gun is part of the murder investigation and you are considered a suspect in that murder because your gun was used in said murder even though you didn't fire it. How would that make you feel, mrmaczaps? Not very good, right? Yet you entrusted this person to take care of your gun and felt he would use it properly but he didn't. Now, you're screwed because that guy violated your trust.

That's sort of the point of this whole thing. Yes, people shouldn't take nude pictures or be so trusting, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't sympathize with what this costs people and should spread awareness about it and educate people just like we do on gun safety.

Does that make sense to you?